| Corruption 23:17 - Jun 3 with 11662 views | DorsetIan |
House of Lords Appointments Committee recommends Peter Cruddas not be appointed to the Lords because he sold access to David Cameron at £250,000 a pop.
Boris Johnson appointed him anyway.
Three days after being appointed he donated £500,000 to Tory Party.
Do any of the Boris fans on here want to defend this? Or say that they don’t care?
Because I’m really not sure how the whole country was up in arms about MPs expenses in 2008 but something as bent as this goes unchecked. |  |
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| Corruption on 18:40 - Jun 25 with 2241 views | City_boy |
| Corruption on 16:36 - Jun 25 by Sadoldgit |
Johnson is a nasty piece of work and doesn’t like to be crossed. Because Bercow gave him a hard time in the Commons over Brexit hell will freeze over before he lets him into the Lords. This despite it is common practice for ex Speakers to be given a peerage. |
I agree it is historical for the speaker of the house to move to the Lords, but it is not mandatory or a given right.
He got too arrogant and power mad for his own good The Speaker is supposed to be impartial. He was far from impartial over Brexit.
We also need to get to the bottom of the bullying and intimidation accusations, which are rife on both sides of the political parties.
In any other organisation he would have been sacked. [Post edited 25 Jun 2021 19:07]
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| Corruption on 20:32 - Jun 25 with 2211 views | Berber |
| Corruption on 14:38 - Jun 25 by City_boy |
Corbyn already tried to get Bercow a peerage and failed. |
Par for the course for'" Oh, Jeremy Corbyn...." Thank goodness we'll never have to listen to that puerile idolatry again. |  |
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| Corruption on 20:38 - Jun 25 with 2210 views | grumpy |
| Corruption on 18:40 - Jun 25 by City_boy |
I agree it is historical for the speaker of the house to move to the Lords, but it is not mandatory or a given right.
He got too arrogant and power mad for his own good The Speaker is supposed to be impartial. He was far from impartial over Brexit.
We also need to get to the bottom of the bullying and intimidation accusations, which are rife on both sides of the political parties.
In any other organisation he would have been sacked. [Post edited 25 Jun 2021 19:07]
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How exactly was Bercow not impartial over Brexit? |  | | |
| Corruption on 07:21 - Jun 26 with 2179 views | City_boy |
| Corruption on 20:38 - Jun 25 by grumpy |
How exactly was Bercow not impartial over Brexit? |
He deliberately back tracked on his announced decision to step down so he could chair debates on Brexit, which enabled him to dictate. when to follow proceedings and allow amendments to align with his own personal Brexit agenda.
He was challenged on a number of times in Parliament about his impartiality and it is well documented the lengths he went to.
Ironically, he once said, 'If we were guided only by precedent nothing would ever change'. How true, but it is ok for him to challenge precedence when it helps him to automatically get a seat in the ‘unelected’ house of Lords. Cake and eat it ?
He has basically joined Labour to get a seat in the Lords.
It was no wonder Sally Bercow slept with his cousin ! | | | |
| Corruption on 09:09 - Jun 26 with 2157 views | kentsouthampton |
His job was to preserve parliamentary sovereignty, the very thing Brexiteers bang on about, he was superb at it. |  | | |
| Corruption on 09:57 - Jun 26 with 2134 views | Berber |
| Corruption on 09:09 - Jun 26 by kentsouthampton |
His job was to preserve parliamentary sovereignty, the very thing Brexiteers bang on about, he was superb at it. |
Parliamantary sovreignty, but only when HE was the arbiter. | |
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| Corruption on 12:06 - Jun 26 with 2115 views | dwayne_dibley |
the problem with Hancock kissing a special advisor it was where he kissed her |  |
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| Corruption on 18:33 - Jun 26 with 2068 views | kentsouthampton |
| Corruption on 09:57 - Jun 26 by Berber |
Parliamantary sovreignty, but only when HE was the arbiter. |
The speaker is the arbiter in the HOC, and you wonder why you Brexiteers get labelled thick. | | | |
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| Corruption on 19:05 - Jun 26 with 2057 views | Sadoldgit |
| Corruption on 07:21 - Jun 26 by City_boy |
He deliberately back tracked on his announced decision to step down so he could chair debates on Brexit, which enabled him to dictate. when to follow proceedings and allow amendments to align with his own personal Brexit agenda.
He was challenged on a number of times in Parliament about his impartiality and it is well documented the lengths he went to.
Ironically, he once said, 'If we were guided only by precedent nothing would ever change'. How true, but it is ok for him to challenge precedence when it helps him to automatically get a seat in the ‘unelected’ house of Lords. Cake and eat it ?
He has basically joined Labour to get a seat in the Lords.
It was no wonder Sally Bercow slept with his cousin ! |
But not with Johnson and Hancock? Poor judgement. |  | | |
| Corruption on 22:00 - Jun 26 with 2034 views | grumpy |
| Corruption on 07:21 - Jun 26 by City_boy |
He deliberately back tracked on his announced decision to step down so he could chair debates on Brexit, which enabled him to dictate. when to follow proceedings and allow amendments to align with his own personal Brexit agenda.
He was challenged on a number of times in Parliament about his impartiality and it is well documented the lengths he went to.
Ironically, he once said, 'If we were guided only by precedent nothing would ever change'. How true, but it is ok for him to challenge precedence when it helps him to automatically get a seat in the ‘unelected’ house of Lords. Cake and eat it ?
He has basically joined Labour to get a seat in the Lords.
It was no wonder Sally Bercow slept with his cousin ! |
Is it any wonder that Bercow stayed on to chair Brexit when Boris tried unlawfully to suspend Parliament?
' and it is well documented the lengths he went to'
Well tell us what he did that he shouldn't of?
'He has basically joined Labour to get a seat in the Lords'
That is just nonsense.
As for the other remark, its not even worth commenting on. | | | |
| Corruption on 22:17 - Jun 26 with 2024 views | Bicester_North |
| Corruption on 09:09 - Jun 26 by kentsouthampton |
His job was to preserve parliamentary sovereignty, the very thing Brexiteers bang on about, he was superb at it. |
And to let his wife get a good old portion it is alleged | |
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| Corruption on 17:33 - Jun 27 with 1959 views | DorsetIan |
| Corruption on 18:33 - Jun 26 by kentsouthampton |
The speaker is the arbiter in the HOC, and you wonder why you Brexiteers get labelled thick. |
The new guy, Hoyle, came in on a ticket that he would be scrupulously independent (a mild dig at Bercow perhaps?) but look at some of the things he’s been saying recently about Johnson’s contempt for Parliament (and getting pretty cross about it) and I think we can understand what Bercow was all about.
The ‘parliamentary sovereignty’ cry in support of Brexit was all guff. They just don’t like anyone - the EU, Parliament, the constitution - telling them what they can do. They just want to be rulers and for everyone else to doff our caps to them and give them and their friends our money. | |
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| Corruption on 17:48 - Jun 27 with 1950 views | Bazza |
| Corruption on 17:33 - Jun 27 by DorsetIan |
The new guy, Hoyle, came in on a ticket that he would be scrupulously independent (a mild dig at Bercow perhaps?) but look at some of the things he’s been saying recently about Johnson’s contempt for Parliament (and getting pretty cross about it) and I think we can understand what Bercow was all about.
The ‘parliamentary sovereignty’ cry in support of Brexit was all guff. They just don’t like anyone - the EU, Parliament, the constitution - telling them what they can do. They just want to be rulers and for everyone else to doff our caps to them and give them and their friends our money. |
Are you a union rep or just starting to sound like one?
Doffing caps was mentioned by soggy also. Where do you stand on bowing to royalty btw? | | | |
| Corruption on 19:22 - Jun 27 with 1935 views | DorsetIan |
| Corruption on 17:48 - Jun 27 by Bazza |
Are you a union rep or just starting to sound like one?
Doffing caps was mentioned by soggy also. Where do you stand on bowing to royalty btw? |
Just starting to sound like one.
Anyway, it seems to be working - Boris is still doing OK-ish in the polls.
Other than blind deference, maybe you've got a a reason why people are still putting a cross next to his name? Does the fact that he's delivered Brexit and Vaccines mean that he can now do pretty much whatever he wants? | |
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| Corruption on 22:04 - Jun 27 with 1910 views | Bazza |
| Corruption on 19:22 - Jun 27 by DorsetIan |
Just starting to sound like one.
Anyway, it seems to be working - Boris is still doing OK-ish in the polls.
Other than blind deference, maybe you've got a a reason why people are still putting a cross next to his name? Does the fact that he's delivered Brexit and Vaccines mean that he can now do pretty much whatever he wants? |
I voted for Brexit after being disappointed for many years with EU progression towards political union especially after the establishment of the euro (using exchange rates) further weakening Southern European economies.
I voted Tory because they were the only realistic Brexit party and because Labour was driven by Momentum and the weak antisemite Corbyn. So blind deference was not a factor.
Certainly there are many problems with the government but Starmer is not providing a suitable opposition at the moment though the commons majority makes his job difficult.
Dissenting Tory MPs are trying to provide some type of influence on Boris | | | |
| Corruption on 22:16 - Jun 27 with 1907 views | Bicester_North |
| Corruption on 19:22 - Jun 27 by DorsetIan |
Just starting to sound like one.
Anyway, it seems to be working - Boris is still doing OK-ish in the polls.
Other than blind deference, maybe you've got a a reason why people are still putting a cross next to his name? Does the fact that he's delivered Brexit and Vaccines mean that he can now do pretty much whatever he wants? |
No credible alternative is the reason | |
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| Corruption on 22:50 - Jun 27 with 1895 views | DorsetIan |
| Corruption on 22:16 - Jun 27 by Bicester_North |
No credible alternative is the reason |
What are you looking for in a 'credible alternative'? | |
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| Corruption on 22:52 - Jun 27 with 1893 views | DorsetIan |
| Corruption on 22:04 - Jun 27 by Bazza |
I voted for Brexit after being disappointed for many years with EU progression towards political union especially after the establishment of the euro (using exchange rates) further weakening Southern European economies.
I voted Tory because they were the only realistic Brexit party and because Labour was driven by Momentum and the weak antisemite Corbyn. So blind deference was not a factor.
Certainly there are many problems with the government but Starmer is not providing a suitable opposition at the moment though the commons majority makes his job difficult.
Dissenting Tory MPs are trying to provide some type of influence on Boris |
Same questions to you. What would you be looking for from the Labour Party? | |
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| Corruption on 23:48 - Jun 27 with 1880 views | Bicester_North |
| Corruption on 22:50 - Jun 27 by DorsetIan |
What are you looking for in a 'credible alternative'? |
A party who represent the majority of ordinary people who just want to work and get on with their lives, instead of pandering to a perpetually offended small minority of privileged people, and whatever they’ve decided to shout about or be offended about on social media this month
A party that isn’t loaded with comical, inept, Britain and Jew haters.
That would be a start. The tories are also well stocked with w@nkers but seem to have at least a few more people who live in the real world. | |
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| Corruption on 08:11 - Jun 28 with 1823 views | Sadoldgit |
| Corruption on 23:48 - Jun 27 by Bicester_North |
A party who represent the majority of ordinary people who just want to work and get on with their lives, instead of pandering to a perpetually offended small minority of privileged people, and whatever they’ve decided to shout about or be offended about on social media this month
A party that isn’t loaded with comical, inept, Britain and Jew haters.
That would be a start. The tories are also well stocked with w@nkers but seem to have at least a few more people who live in the real world. |
But we are currently governed by an inept and comical bunch of Muslim haters so how is that better?
As for the comment “Jew haters”, there is a big difference between anti-semitism and being pro Palestian. It seems nowadays that if you support the Palestinians you are labelled an anti-Semite. | | | |
| Corruption on 08:37 - Jun 28 with 1810 views | Bicester_North |
| Corruption on 08:11 - Jun 28 by Sadoldgit |
But we are currently governed by an inept and comical bunch of Muslim haters so how is that better?
As for the comment “Jew haters”, there is a big difference between anti-semitism and being pro Palestian. It seems nowadays that if you support the Palestinians you are labelled an anti-Semite. |
I don’t really give a monkeys areshole what you say about the subject, as you are one of the few that the current Labour Party does cater for as i mentioned above.
I’m talking about why the Tories keep getting the majority vote, and it’s because Labour is riddled with cretins. | |
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| Corruption on 09:15 - Jun 28 with 1801 views | Sadoldgit |
| Corruption on 08:37 - Jun 28 by Bicester_North |
I don’t really give a monkeys areshole what you say about the subject, as you are one of the few that the current Labour Party does cater for as i mentioned above.
I’m talking about why the Tories keep getting the majority vote, and it’s because Labour is riddled with cretins. |
But you seem to completely ignore the fact that the Tory party is the one in power and is also, as you say, riddled with cretins. The Labour Party cater for me, as you say, because they are the only credible alternative at the moment. If the LibDems ever sort themselves out they will get my vote again. The point is that there are other alternatives if you don’t want to vote for Labour, the vast majority of whom have to be better than the corrupt and inept bunch currently in power. | | | |
| Corruption on 09:35 - Jun 28 with 1795 views | DorsetIan |
| Corruption on 23:48 - Jun 27 by Bicester_North |
A party who represent the majority of ordinary people who just want to work and get on with their lives, instead of pandering to a perpetually offended small minority of privileged people, and whatever they’ve decided to shout about or be offended about on social media this month
A party that isn’t loaded with comical, inept, Britain and Jew haters.
That would be a start. The tories are also well stocked with w@nkers but seem to have at least a few more people who live in the real world. |
OK. Thanks for the reply.
I don't see it like you do (as you might guess) - I just don't see the tories as looking out for working people. They will always favour those who already have wealth and power - this bunch perhaps more than most.
I agree though that Labour needs to get its act together. I think Starmer is too flat. Somehow they need to offer something a bit new. Something that working people can get enthusiastic about. | |
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| Corruption on 10:45 - Jun 28 with 1784 views | Berber |
| Corruption on 12:06 - Jun 26 by dwayne_dibley |
the problem with Hancock kissing a special advisor it was where he kissed her |
On the lips? | |
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| Corruption on 10:45 - Jun 28 with 1784 views | grumpy |
| Corruption on 09:35 - Jun 28 by DorsetIan |
OK. Thanks for the reply.
I don't see it like you do (as you might guess) - I just don't see the tories as looking out for working people. They will always favour those who already have wealth and power - this bunch perhaps more than most.
I agree though that Labour needs to get its act together. I think Starmer is too flat. Somehow they need to offer something a bit new. Something that working people can get enthusiastic about. |
I don't quite know what people expect Starmer to say or do?
The Tories have a huge majority, trying to push anything through is almost impossible.
This Government is in my opinion is the worst I have ever seen and yet people will still vote for them.
Very Depressing.
On the Labour leader position, I like Starmer but would have rather had Lisa Nandy or Yvette Cooper in that position. | | | |
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