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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? 14:41 - Jan 12 with 5185 viewsTimSaint

Having now seen him live, I must say, I wasn't impressed and don't get all the hype surrounding him.

I'm sure he can be good on his day, but I thought he, like the rest of the Brentford team, were made to look very poor by us last night.

He totally miscued and didn't even connect with his only chance in the first half last night, got booked, dived around a bit, had a poor first touch many times, took a poor quick free kick, got frustrated, gave away a stupid free kick that could have earned him a 2nd yellow and finally had an actual shot near the end of the 2nd half.

I'm sure many strikers have such off days, but perhaps Brentford should have played us in December when Toney still had Covid !!

Also Brentford are THE team when it comes to stealing yardage with throw ins !! Some they took last night were 3 of those grass strips further up the pitch than where the ball went off - that is 18 yards FFS !!
When the fan in the front row of the Itchen acrobatically kicked the ball, the resulting throw in was taken so far away from him it was ridiculous !!

Oh well, never mind, we won and at least the ref let the game flow most of the time.




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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 15:14 - Jan 12 with 2379 viewsBerber

You could have said the same about many of Ings' performances for us apart from the impetuosity.
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 15:30 - Jan 12 with 2363 viewskingolaf

I think Toney is a quality player.

He did nothing last night though apart from whacking Salisu.
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 19:16 - Jan 12 with 2271 viewskingslandstand1

Reminded me of another Wilfied Zaha who believes all the hype in the press about him, and continuously whinges about anything. Prowsie also had him in his pocket
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 19:29 - Jan 12 with 2249 viewsNYC_Saint

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 19:16 - Jan 12 by kingslandstand1

Reminded me of another Wilfied Zaha who believes all the hype in the press about him, and continuously whinges about anything. Prowsie also had him in his pocket


Totally agree. “Poor man’s Zaha” was what I thought watching him last night.
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 15:06 - Jan 13 with 2001 viewsTimSaint

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 19:16 - Jan 12 by kingslandstand1

Reminded me of another Wilfied Zaha who believes all the hype in the press about him, and continuously whinges about anything. Prowsie also had him in his pocket


......and to think there were some people in the media, pushing for him to be included in the England Squad last October / November !!

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 15:55 - Jan 13 with 1974 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

He generally shows up against the bigger teams.

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:03 - Jan 13 with 1960 viewsButty101

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 15:55 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

He generally shows up against the bigger teams.


Hes probably worth 3 times as much as your entire club.

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:06 - Jan 13 with 1950 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:03 - Jan 13 by Butty101

Hes probably worth 3 times as much as your entire club.


How much are real trophies worth?

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:19 - Jan 13 with 1935 viewsdirk_doone

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 15:55 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

He generally shows up against the bigger teams.


You've shown yourself up as a complete fool again. You never learn, do you?

Toney is a Championship level striker who gets a few goals against the weaker teams but generally struggles at Premier League level. He hasn't scored a single goal against any of the Big 6 teams. Like most of his team, he looked outclassed against Saints.

You've probably never even seen any of the current Premier Leaguel strikers play live. Stick to talking about what you know: lower league football and Little Pompey.'s latest defeat. Or perhaps you can tell us all about the last time Little Pompey faced Brentford when they did the double over you in League One.

http://pompeyrama.com/pompey-fc-match-3337-6-Nov-2012-Pompey-0-Brentford-1.html



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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:26 - Jan 13 with 1915 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:19 - Jan 13 by dirk_doone

You've shown yourself up as a complete fool again. You never learn, do you?

Toney is a Championship level striker who gets a few goals against the weaker teams but generally struggles at Premier League level. He hasn't scored a single goal against any of the Big 6 teams. Like most of his team, he looked outclassed against Saints.

You've probably never even seen any of the current Premier Leaguel strikers play live. Stick to talking about what you know: lower league football and Little Pompey.'s latest defeat. Or perhaps you can tell us all about the last time Little Pompey faced Brentford when they did the double over you in League One.

http://pompeyrama.com/pompey-fc-match-3337-6-Nov-2012-Pompey-0-Brentford-1.html



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Showing up doesn't always mean scoring



and BTW - when did Pompey last lose in the league? You obviously don't need to look it up, as you must already know the anser

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:33 - Jan 13 with 1904 viewsdirk_doone

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:26 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

Showing up doesn't always mean scoring



and BTW - when did Pompey last lose in the league? You obviously don't need to look it up, as you must already know the anser


True. You've shown yourself up again without scoring.

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:35 - Jan 13 with 1894 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:33 - Jan 13 by dirk_doone

True. You've shown yourself up again without scoring.


Oh dear, was it mid October?
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:38 - Jan 13 with 1890 viewsdirk_doone

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:35 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

Oh dear, was it mid October?
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No, early November:

http://pompeyrama.com/pompey-fc-match-3337-6-Nov-2012-Pompey-0-Brentford-1.html

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:43 - Jan 13 with 1875 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:38 - Jan 13 by dirk_doone

No, early November:

http://pompeyrama.com/pompey-fc-match-3337-6-Nov-2012-Pompey-0-Brentford-1.html


In the league? You're not very good at this are you


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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:46 - Jan 13 with 1868 viewsPatfromPoole

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:26 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

Showing up doesn't always mean scoring



and BTW - when did Pompey last lose in the league? You obviously don't need to look it up, as you must already know the anser


Which league is this, out of interest?

It has been so long since you were in either of the two top divisions.

One can’t help but feel you have reached your natural position, wherever that is.

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:49 - Jan 13 with 1861 viewsdirk_doone

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:43 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

In the league? You're not very good at this are you



Saints are 11th in the Premier League. Little Pompey are two leagues and 41 places below us.

Minnows like you must try much harder if you want to impress on a Premier League messageboard.

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:50 - Jan 13 with 1854 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:46 - Jan 13 by PatfromPoole

Which league is this, out of interest?

It has been so long since you were in either of the two top divisions.

One can’t help but feel you have reached your natural position, wherever that is.


Serious question, what is your natural level, as you don't seem to achieve too much?

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:52 - Jan 13 with 1854 viewsdirk_doone

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:50 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

Serious question, what is your natural level, as you don't seem to achieve too much?


The level we've been in for most of the last 60 years: in the top flight and above Little Pompey.
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:53 - Jan 13 with 1850 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:49 - Jan 13 by dirk_doone

Saints are 11th in the Premier League. Little Pompey are two leagues and 41 places below us.

Minnows like you must try much harder if you want to impress on a Premier League messageboard.


Oh dear. we haven't lost in the league since mid-October, and you seem to be sore about it. Why don't you start another Pompey losing thread


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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:57 - Jan 13 with 1838 viewsPatfromPoole

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:50 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

Serious question, what is your natural level, as you don't seem to achieve too much?


Our natural level is the League we have been after the season we passed each other with something of a gaping chasm between our various league positions….

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 17:09 - Jan 13 with 1815 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:57 - Jan 13 by PatfromPoole

Our natural level is the League we have been after the season we passed each other with something of a gaping chasm between our various league positions….


So, as a club, have you spent more time in the top league, or more time in the leagues below that?

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 17:09 - Jan 13 with 1816 viewsBerber

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 16:53 - Jan 13 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

Oh dear. we haven't lost in the league since mid-October, and you seem to be sore about it. Why don't you start another Pompey losing thread



Straws, desperate grasping.
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 17:10 - Jan 13 with 1811 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 17:09 - Jan 13 by Berber

Straws, desperate grasping.


It's a fact, that's all, a fact,

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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 17:17 - Jan 13 with 1797 viewsdirk_doone

Saints

1st tier 45 seasons
2nd tier 39 seasons
3rd tier 11 season
4th tier 0 seasons

Little Pompey

1st tier 33 seasons
2nd tier 40 seasons
3rd tier 16 seasons
4th tier 6 seasons

So Saints' natural level is clearly in the top tier and above Little Pompey's, even more so in our lifetimes.
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Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 17:19 - Jan 13 with 1789 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Ivan Toney - Why All The Hype ? on 17:17 - Jan 13 by dirk_doone

Saints

1st tier 45 seasons
2nd tier 39 seasons
3rd tier 11 season
4th tier 0 seasons

Little Pompey

1st tier 33 seasons
2nd tier 40 seasons
3rd tier 16 seasons
4th tier 6 seasons

So Saints' natural level is clearly in the top tier and above Little Pompey's, even more so in our lifetimes.
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and what have you achieved at your 'natural level'?


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