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One person saying it in a very vindictive way rather than several hundred football fans laughing singing it can have a very different reaction from myself.
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:20 - Jan 22 with 3460 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:07 - Jan 22 by 1983
One person saying it in a very vindictive way rather than several hundred football fans laughing singing it can have a very different reaction from myself.
I agree, but even then, in an argument, whoever is arguing will instinctively pick on things they can use as an insult. Fat, four eyes, ginger, scruffy (me), ugly (also me), sheepshagger (again me), etc etc. People should not take insults personally, whatever they may be. Unless the insult is particularly uncalled for or in a different context
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 14:00 - Jan 22 by RhonddaSwans
This one is for you res we can have a vote on it.
Please can you state your case for it here bro?
And not on the Kasey Palmer thread
Thank you butty
RJ
Iβm amazed that Resolven can get offended by something that is clearly nonsensical, but practically gloat about the situation at Tata, on the day of the announcement, despite the very real impact it has on thousands of local people.
Nobody actually thinks Welsh people shag sheep.
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:35 - Jan 22 with 3414 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:30 - Jan 22 by jack247
Iβm amazed that Resolven can get offended by something that is clearly nonsensical, but practically gloat about the situation at Tata, on the day of the announcement, despite the very real impact it has on thousands of local people.
Nobody actually thinks Welsh people shag sheep.
Possible it touches a nerve in the upper valley
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:45 - Jan 22 with 3381 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:20 - Jan 22 by jackrmee
I agree, but even then, in an argument, whoever is arguing will instinctively pick on things they can use as an insult. Fat, four eyes, ginger, scruffy (me), ugly (also me), sheepshagger (again me), etc etc. People should not take insults personally, whatever they may be. Unless the insult is particularly uncalled for or in a different context
Tell that to Casey Palmer.
Swansea had 4 instances 2 seasons back
Whittaker - Pretty upset Danhda - Very upset indeed. Rhys Willaims - Extremely upset Ben Cabango - Brushed it off.
Perhaps players from Swansea are used to it. ?
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 18:46 - Jan 22 with 3233 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:30 - Jan 22 by jack247
Iβm amazed that Resolven can get offended by something that is clearly nonsensical, but practically gloat about the situation at Tata, on the day of the announcement, despite the very real impact it has on thousands of local people.
Nobody actually thinks Welsh people shag sheep.
I did not gloat over anything. The world can be a tough place. I have been laid off twice with minimal pay offs and no benefits.
Who said I was offended? Sheep slurs are illegal. I do not get offended that right wing thickos from England sing slurs based on the fact I am Welsh. They are racist filth that taunt Black people as well . I just get very sad the Welsh thicko wimps repeat them.
No one actually thinks Black people are monkeys.
Are Swansea / Wales fans are intrinsically racist and sing racist slurs against decent Welsh people who do not like football?. An embarrassment to the nation.
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 19:04 - Jan 22 with 3180 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 16:07 - Jan 22 by 1983
One person saying it in a very vindictive way rather than several hundred football fans laughing singing it can have a very different reaction from myself.
Weβre talking about the chant here π€·ββοΈ
This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you."
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 19:40 - Jan 22 with 3120 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 18:46 - Jan 22 by ReslovenSwan1
I did not gloat over anything. The world can be a tough place. I have been laid off twice with minimal pay offs and no benefits.
Who said I was offended? Sheep slurs are illegal. I do not get offended that right wing thickos from England sing slurs based on the fact I am Welsh. They are racist filth that taunt Black people as well . I just get very sad the Welsh thicko wimps repeat them.
No one actually thinks Black people are monkeys.
Are Swansea / Wales fans are intrinsically racist and sing racist slurs against decent Welsh people who do not like football?. An embarrassment to the nation.
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If you honestly think one set of supporters chanting βsheepshaggersβ to another is on par with people making monkey noises/gestures at individuals, then to be honest, I can see why you canβt see anything wrong with your steelworks posts last week.
Just to clarify then, you donβt find sheep chants offensive?
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 20:14 - Jan 22 with 3055 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 20:07 - Jan 22 by jack247
If you honestly think one set of supporters chanting βsheepshaggersβ to another is on par with people making monkey noises/gestures at individuals, then to be honest, I can see why you canβt see anything wrong with your steelworks posts last week.
Just to clarify then, you donβt find sheep chants offensive?
The two issues are separate. I feel for the people of my district NPT.
The chants are offensive but do not make me angry from the English lower classes. It is what I expect from them to a certain extent.
They are now, by social pressures under pressure from TV cameras, threats of action, peer pressure, relentless media coverage, and disdain from their own black players encouraged away from Anti African abuse. It still persists sadly.
I have been with Hereford fans close up and personal at Merthyr as my mate supports the Bulls. The chanting was not nudge nudge wink giggle. It was aggressive threatening and a blow out for serious mentally questionable thugs probably already with criminal records.
If you are a Swansea fans you cannot have missed it. Swansea fans engage and share the filth and give these people free pass. Welsh fans shared the filth in the World cup. The same people do all the pseudo obscene stuff Sheep / Airplane accidents / mass killings etc. It is a twisted way of thinking which the East stand enjoy engaging with.
I would support Coleman if he applied the three phase UEFA warning system to make the Swansea.com family friendly. It is a natural evolution. From the terrible 1970 and 1980s to today.
Sky Sports went in big on Bulgarians and Hungarians singing chants about Raheem Sterling and laid into FIFA and EUFA. When Gerwyn and his family were reduced to tears Sky Sports turned down the volume so English people would not be offended. We do not need to take this crap. It is an English problem. They should "own it" not us.
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 20:33 - Jan 22 with 3011 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 20:18 - Jan 22 by union_jack
Thereβs been a flurry of votes against it even though only one obvious one on here has expressed having a problem with it.
Itβs got the hallmarks of the POTY vote all over againπ
Only 2-3 people have ever really moaned about the sheep thing. Given all the responses and criticism levelled at Res its hard to understand how Res got near winning POTY. In a few hours 3 votes has become 17, likePOTY, it's a mystery.
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 21:15 - Jan 22 with 2933 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 20:27 - Jan 22 by ReslovenSwan1
The two issues are separate. I feel for the people of my district NPT.
The chants are offensive but do not make me angry from the English lower classes. It is what I expect from them to a certain extent.
They are now, by social pressures under pressure from TV cameras, threats of action, peer pressure, relentless media coverage, and disdain from their own black players encouraged away from Anti African abuse. It still persists sadly.
I have been with Hereford fans close up and personal at Merthyr as my mate supports the Bulls. The chanting was not nudge nudge wink giggle. It was aggressive threatening and a blow out for serious mentally questionable thugs probably already with criminal records.
If you are a Swansea fans you cannot have missed it. Swansea fans engage and share the filth and give these people free pass. Welsh fans shared the filth in the World cup. The same people do all the pseudo obscene stuff Sheep / Airplane accidents / mass killings etc. It is a twisted way of thinking which the East stand enjoy engaging with.
I would support Coleman if he applied the three phase UEFA warning system to make the Swansea.com family friendly. It is a natural evolution. From the terrible 1970 and 1980s to today.
Sky Sports went in big on Bulgarians and Hungarians singing chants about Raheem Sterling and laid into FIFA and EUFA. When Gerwyn and his family were reduced to tears Sky Sports turned down the volume so English people would not be offended. We do not need to take this crap. It is an English problem. They should "own it" not us.
You cannot honestly compare the abuse, physical and verbal, that blacks have suffered over many, many years to an infantile football chair. To compare the abuse of one black player in isolation to the sheep chant shows your lack of intelligence and knowledge and empathy (yet again) to many millions subjected to very real abuse and worse both historically and even within our lifetime. Many people died due to that bigotry and during slavery blacks were treated as sub human. Horses and cattle had more value than humans. Can you honestly give one example where anyone has been so offended by the S/S chant as to even report it to the club, a steward or the police. To compare Palmer's abuse to the chant shows what a low self centred individual you are with no real compassion for his fellow man
"Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination" - Mark Twain
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 20:47 - Jan 22 by SullutaCreturned
Only 2-3 people have ever really moaned about the sheep thing. Given all the responses and criticism levelled at Res its hard to understand how Res got near winning POTY. In a few hours 3 votes has become 17, likePOTY, it's a mystery.
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 21:15 - Jan 22 by STID2017
You cannot honestly compare the abuse, physical and verbal, that blacks have suffered over many, many years to an infantile football chair. To compare the abuse of one black player in isolation to the sheep chant shows your lack of intelligence and knowledge and empathy (yet again) to many millions subjected to very real abuse and worse both historically and even within our lifetime. Many people died due to that bigotry and during slavery blacks were treated as sub human. Horses and cattle had more value than humans. Can you honestly give one example where anyone has been so offended by the S/S chant as to even report it to the club, a steward or the police. To compare Palmer's abuse to the chant shows what a low self centred individual you are with no real compassion for his fellow man
Great post, good to read a post that actually shows common sense
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 21:15 - Jan 22 by STID2017
You cannot honestly compare the abuse, physical and verbal, that blacks have suffered over many, many years to an infantile football chair. To compare the abuse of one black player in isolation to the sheep chant shows your lack of intelligence and knowledge and empathy (yet again) to many millions subjected to very real abuse and worse both historically and even within our lifetime. Many people died due to that bigotry and during slavery blacks were treated as sub human. Horses and cattle had more value than humans. Can you honestly give one example where anyone has been so offended by the S/S chant as to even report it to the club, a steward or the police. To compare Palmer's abuse to the chant shows what a low self centred individual you are with no real compassion for his fellow man
I find the abuse of Casey Palmer disgusting. It is pseudo obscene designed to shock and demonstrate an independent anti social streak. Sheep slurs against the Welsh nation are the same.
They are slurs by a majority against a minority group. 99% (perhaps) of black people take offence and want action against it. I estimated 25% of Welsh or UK people in general people or more have a similar view. This poll actually tests it out. I probably understated the case. A substantial number of people are not happy with the East stand chants.
The club professed ZERO TOLERANCE. Zero means zero to these types of ethnic slurs.
Again I make case and get my character targeted. You are in a majority of forum divas who go for the poster not the argument.
I get no support in writing just in votes it seems. Racial issues need careful handling. The argument is about philosophies not historical issues. I read a plaque to the fatalities of the Senghenedd mining disaster. The youngest a was six years old.
Bravo to Rhondda for making the poll. I will review the finding once the poll is closed. This once again shows the Swansea Independent is a leader in its field.
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To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 21:53 - Jan 22 with 2859 views
To solve the π lover question is the chant ok πβοΈ on 20:47 - Jan 22 by SullutaCreturned
Only 2-3 people have ever really moaned about the sheep thing. Given all the responses and criticism levelled at Res its hard to understand how Res got near winning POTY. In a few hours 3 votes has become 17, likePOTY, it's a mystery.
Itβs also the same as the change of name vote which surprised us all really.
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