| Ben Williams and his team 21:03 - Feb 24 with 10557 views | numptydumpty | B*gger off back to Dubai, and no you can't work remotely beside the pool anymore. Thank you...... |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 18:13 - Feb 26 with 3169 views | themodfather | there has to be an issue either with training, warm ups or physio set up, the list of injuries is ridiculous and i ask , does CHAIR exist? kone looks dead on his feet and has led the line, near alone for months? how many like clubs could manage and stay competitive with 10-11 first team players out? |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 18:22 - Feb 26 with 3113 views | Northernr |
| Ben Williams and his team on 18:05 - Feb 26 by Wilkinswatercarrier | There are an awful lot of posty things of Ben Williams with a big X covering his face. Even the youngsters have realised there is a serious problem. The worst thing is my son said 'I hope this team isn't the 'What if' team. All stay fit and we'd of been right in the mix. |
Oh that's good of them, back in August those of us who said the team didn't look fit were told we were old farts and dinosaurs who just didn't understand the elite knowledge of the people running the club. |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 18:45 - Feb 26 with 3032 views | lassel |
| Ben Williams and his team on 18:22 - Feb 26 by Northernr | Oh that's good of them, back in August those of us who said the team didn't look fit were told we were old farts and dinosaurs who just didn't understand the elite knowledge of the people running the club. |
I mean two things can be true at the same time |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 19:14 - Feb 26 with 2957 views | charmr | Been a long litany of excuses especially since the stoke game with Ben Williams now being the latest one being discussed. Anyone know anything from someone behind the scenes or any fact based information they could share please. Just asking. Loft for words or Loft for conjecture. |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 22:18 - Feb 26 with 2769 views | wombat |
| Ben Williams and his team on 18:22 - Feb 26 by Northernr | Oh that's good of them, back in August those of us who said the team didn't look fit were told we were old farts and dinosaurs who just didn't understand the elite knowledge of the people running the club. |
Think that was mainly aimed at me . One of them serious offence whe. I said he had backed the wrong horse though . |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 22:21 - Feb 26 with 2772 views | Northernr |
| Ben Williams and his team on 22:18 - Feb 26 by wombat | Think that was mainly aimed at me . One of them serious offence whe. I said he had backed the wrong horse though . |
Nah I copped it after Plymouth from "French football agent" who's suddenly decided he's a died in the wool QPR fan for some reason. Never spoken to me before but suddenly piled into me after Plymouth because I didn't understand the game. Not right this sht. |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 22:27 - Feb 26 with 2737 views | wombat |
| Ben Williams and his team on 22:21 - Feb 26 by Northernr | Nah I copped it after Plymouth from "French football agent" who's suddenly decided he's a died in the wool QPR fan for some reason. Never spoken to me before but suddenly piled into me after Plymouth because I didn't understand the game. Not right this sht. |
Oh him he’s comedy gold dad was a supposed famous keeper and he’s an agent now dosnt go to games home or away and suddenly got a tkt for Wrexham away earlier in the season when they was in short supply . |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 22:48 - Feb 26 with 2687 views | Northernr |
| Ben Williams and his team on 22:27 - Feb 26 by wombat | Oh him he’s comedy gold dad was a supposed famous keeper and he’s an agent now dosnt go to games home or away and suddenly got a tkt for Wrexham away earlier in the season when they was in short supply . |
Like I say, not right some of this sht. Repeatedly goes after long standing QPR fans and brands them mentally ill. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Ben Williams and his team on 07:49 - Feb 27 with 2464 views | hubble | This could be the first time in football history that the fans chant for the fitness coach to be sacked. Will we hear 'Williams out' at the game tomorrow? Some people might get the wrong idea of course, and think that the heir the throne has been exposed as an uphill gardener. Talking of uphill gardeners, perhaps 'groundsman out' should be added to the chant. |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 15:34 - Feb 27 with 1982 views | wombat |
| Ben Williams and his team on 22:48 - Feb 26 by Northernr | Like I say, not right some of this sht. Repeatedly goes after long standing QPR fans and brands them mentally ill. |
aint gonna lie used to react to it big time , bit now its easier to block them and wait for them to set up yet another account that u have to block . half of them are around 15 nothing wrong with that we neeed kids coming through to replace us old farts in the future, but when u dare ask the question , so when did u first hear of this amazing australian wonderkid , funnily enough they go silent until we sign the next one . then u old farts know nothing , yet they are sat at home in the there thomas the tank pjs watching on a dodgy firestick when some os us hit the road at 6am to get to some away game . some id say are linked to the club in some way |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 17:01 - Feb 27 with 1819 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Ben Williams and his team on 15:34 - Feb 27 by wombat | aint gonna lie used to react to it big time , bit now its easier to block them and wait for them to set up yet another account that u have to block . half of them are around 15 nothing wrong with that we neeed kids coming through to replace us old farts in the future, but when u dare ask the question , so when did u first hear of this amazing australian wonderkid , funnily enough they go silent until we sign the next one . then u old farts know nothing , yet they are sat at home in the there thomas the tank pjs watching on a dodgy firestick when some os us hit the road at 6am to get to some away game . some id say are linked to the club in some way |
And they all seem to universally hate Field and Smyth. |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 17:33 - Feb 27 with 1771 views | NorthantsHoop | They are all over trained, protected and made of glass these young modern footballers, further accentuated by all the back room staff at the football clubs. Analysts, trainers, coaches for this coaches for that a right old gravy train. Go back to the Venables days for example you had about 15 or 16 players in a squad, manager and a coach plus a couple of physios. Now it's a total bloated payroll protecting these so called assets that can't seem to manage a couple of games a week. |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 18:47 - Feb 27 with 1657 views | numptydumpty |
| Ben Williams and his team on 17:33 - Feb 27 by NorthantsHoop | They are all over trained, protected and made of glass these young modern footballers, further accentuated by all the back room staff at the football clubs. Analysts, trainers, coaches for this coaches for that a right old gravy train. Go back to the Venables days for example you had about 15 or 16 players in a squad, manager and a coach plus a couple of physios. Now it's a total bloated payroll protecting these so called assets that can't seem to manage a couple of games a week. |
Bloated staff numbers in football. Happens everywhere now as so many staff dont do their real job that much as they are hamstrung by ridiculously over bureaucratic multiple and unneccessary admin. Jobs for the boys - no doubt... But in the real world - quarterly performance appraisals and three strikes and you are out - think the final disciplinary with P45 imminent is a close call right now.... But then, this is football and this is QPR !!!! |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 03:28 - Feb 28 with 1413 views | Match82 |
| Ben Williams and his team on 17:33 - Feb 27 by NorthantsHoop | They are all over trained, protected and made of glass these young modern footballers, further accentuated by all the back room staff at the football clubs. Analysts, trainers, coaches for this coaches for that a right old gravy train. Go back to the Venables days for example you had about 15 or 16 players in a squad, manager and a coach plus a couple of physios. Now it's a total bloated payroll protecting these so called assets that can't seem to manage a couple of games a week. |
It's sort of what seems natural to me as well that idea of 15-20 players, one manager and a couple of coaches, get a style stick to it that sort of thing. What I grew up with. But I also remember thinking "this wenger is taking that making them eat all healthy thing way too seriously" and well clearly I was wrong. So there's definitely something to be said for progress, maximizing fitness etc but it does feel like they're taking it a bit far. |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 22:54 - Mar 5 with 1007 views | wombat |
| Ben Williams and his team on 03:28 - Feb 28 by Match82 | It's sort of what seems natural to me as well that idea of 15-20 players, one manager and a couple of coaches, get a style stick to it that sort of thing. What I grew up with. But I also remember thinking "this wenger is taking that making them eat all healthy thing way too seriously" and well clearly I was wrong. So there's definitely something to be said for progress, maximizing fitness etc but it does feel like they're taking it a bit far. |
The one thing we aren’t doing is maximising fitness this or indeed last season . |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 05:46 - Mar 6 with 797 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Ben Williams and his team on 07:49 - Feb 27 by hubble | This could be the first time in football history that the fans chant for the fitness coach to be sacked. Will we hear 'Williams out' at the game tomorrow? Some people might get the wrong idea of course, and think that the heir the throne has been exposed as an uphill gardener. Talking of uphill gardeners, perhaps 'groundsman out' should be added to the chant. |
We're not fit, we're not fit, we're not fit to wear the shirt... |  |
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| Ben Williams and his team on 06:51 - Mar 6 with 703 views | numptydumpty |
| Ben Williams and his team on 17:33 - Feb 27 by NorthantsHoop | They are all over trained, protected and made of glass these young modern footballers, further accentuated by all the back room staff at the football clubs. Analysts, trainers, coaches for this coaches for that a right old gravy train. Go back to the Venables days for example you had about 15 or 16 players in a squad, manager and a coach plus a couple of physios. Now it's a total bloated payroll protecting these so called assets that can't seem to manage a couple of games a week. |
With data analysis, attempting to unearth hidden gems from all over the globe - clearly there is too much scope given to this. Unearthing a Santos or an Esquerdinha worldwide, when you have a Peacock (Darren) on your doorstep. Probably just beyond Ollie's time here in the 2000's was around the time the game was starting to become global. It wasnt Bill watching young players at Dagenham and Redbridge, it was Tarquin with his PhD looking at data on a screen unearthing a "gem" from darkest Peru.... There is a place for it to a certain extent, but good old fashioned know how and a good feeling about a player, seriously should still be given its prominence. Managers such as Brian Clough with his undoubted talents, there would be no place in the game for such people !!! It is as it is, but it doesnt mean its always right !!! [Post edited 6 Mar 6:53]
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| Ben Williams and his team on 08:20 - Mar 6 with 572 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Ben Williams and his team on 06:51 - Mar 6 by numptydumpty | With data analysis, attempting to unearth hidden gems from all over the globe - clearly there is too much scope given to this. Unearthing a Santos or an Esquerdinha worldwide, when you have a Peacock (Darren) on your doorstep. Probably just beyond Ollie's time here in the 2000's was around the time the game was starting to become global. It wasnt Bill watching young players at Dagenham and Redbridge, it was Tarquin with his PhD looking at data on a screen unearthing a "gem" from darkest Peru.... There is a place for it to a certain extent, but good old fashioned know how and a good feeling about a player, seriously should still be given its prominence. Managers such as Brian Clough with his undoubted talents, there would be no place in the game for such people !!! It is as it is, but it doesnt mean its always right !!! [Post edited 6 Mar 6:53]
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All points to the other thread, "Has The Game Gone", lots of smoke and mirrors with football these days including injuries, transfers, back room staff and communication. Basically an over bloated industry but still enjoyable, even the money offered to players at non league level is I understand quite an eye opener. |  | |  |
| Ben Williams and his team on 08:36 - Mar 6 with 527 views | Rsole |
| Ben Williams and his team on 18:45 - Feb 26 by lassel | I mean two things can be true at the same time |
Maybe even three ! Cheque’s in the post I love you You won’t be bummed in the gob on Sunday |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Ben Williams and his team on 08:44 - Mar 6 with 513 views | Rsole |
| Ben Williams and his team on 17:33 - Feb 27 by NorthantsHoop | They are all over trained, protected and made of glass these young modern footballers, further accentuated by all the back room staff at the football clubs. Analysts, trainers, coaches for this coaches for that a right old gravy train. Go back to the Venables days for example you had about 15 or 16 players in a squad, manager and a coach plus a couple of physios. Now it's a total bloated payroll protecting these so called assets that can't seem to manage a couple of games a week. |
All of whom played mostly on Astro and sand…..even at some away games too. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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