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Southampton accept the charges but… 07:58 - May 11 with 3491 viewsButty101

Are saying he’s a loan wolf ffs

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/fo

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 08:33 - May 11 with 3356 viewsSonicBoom

I actually hope they have their meeting and sort out punishment as fast as possible. The reaction is getting more widespread and hysterical by the day.

And Millwall think no one likes them.......
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 08:55 - May 11 with 3288 viewssaintmark1976

Southampton accept the charges but… on 08:33 - May 11 by SonicBoom

I actually hope they have their meeting and sort out punishment as fast as possible. The reaction is getting more widespread and hysterical by the day.

And Millwall think no one likes them.......


A lot depends on tomorrow’s result I feel.

Hammer them 4-0 or so and complaints about a man taking photo shots from a grassy knoll will look totally ridiculous.

Win by the odd goal or on penalties after extra time and that’s a different story.

I don’t think for a moment it will happen but if we were defeated we are obviously out of the competition leaving a fine and or points deduction for next season in The Championship as the only options available.

Win tomorrow and subsequently get banned from playing in the Playoff Final will result in an absolute field day for the legal profession.

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 08:57 - May 11 with 3289 viewsButty101

Southampton accept the charges but… on 08:33 - May 11 by SonicBoom

I actually hope they have their meeting and sort out punishment as fast as possible. The reaction is getting more widespread and hysterical by the day.

And Millwall think no one likes them.......


The comments on that article basically say we should be kicked out. That won’t happen. It will be a fine and someone in the club will get sacked.

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:08 - May 11 with 3246 viewsdirk_doone

Steve Gibson is the driving force behind this hysterical overreaction. Apparently he has history for behaving like an angry Rottweiler in disputes with other clubs. He has enormous wealth and friends in high places so he is a formidable opponent. He will already be working behind the scenes to influence the 'independent disciplinary panel.'

As Bob Mortimer would say, in his best Middlesbrough accent, "He wouldn't let it lie."
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:16 - May 11 with 3214 viewsSonicBoom

Southampton accept the charges but… on 08:55 - May 11 by saintmark1976

A lot depends on tomorrow’s result I feel.

Hammer them 4-0 or so and complaints about a man taking photo shots from a grassy knoll will look totally ridiculous.

Win by the odd goal or on penalties after extra time and that’s a different story.

I don’t think for a moment it will happen but if we were defeated we are obviously out of the competition leaving a fine and or points deduction for next season in The Championship as the only options available.

Win tomorrow and subsequently get banned from playing in the Playoff Final will result in an absolute field day for the legal profession.


I don't think the result will matter unless we lose.
If we do the furore will die down as it all becomes irrelevant and people will move on.
If we win whether on pens or by 5, there outcry will get worse. We are branded as cheats and everyone else will claim the moral high ground and demand we are hammered.
I do think other clubs will be reluctant to join in cos we cannot be the only ones to do this.
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:21 - May 11 with 3204 viewsIfonly

The article is wrong to say that SFC have accepted the charges. They've acknowledged the charges, which is very different. Saying they've accepted the charges implies they've accepted guilt, which they haven't. The article was published 2 days ago so if it was true, other sources would be saying the same thing by now.
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:30 - May 11 with 3171 viewskingslandstand1

Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:16 - May 11 by SonicBoom

I don't think the result will matter unless we lose.
If we do the furore will die down as it all becomes irrelevant and people will move on.
If we win whether on pens or by 5, there outcry will get worse. We are branded as cheats and everyone else will claim the moral high ground and demand we are hammered.
I do think other clubs will be reluctant to join in cos we cannot be the only ones to do this.


Other clubs are apparently looking at their cctv to try and jump on the bandwagon

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:36 - May 11 with 3151 viewsdirk_doone

Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:30 - May 11 by kingslandstand1

Other clubs are apparently looking at their cctv to try and jump on the bandwagon


Gibson has asked them all to do it, and probably knows many of the chairmen personally. He'll also have private investigators working on it.
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:47 - May 11 with 3111 viewsjopreston

That statement makes no sense. We accept someone did this but it was nothing to do with us. So are we saying we are guilty? What a mess.
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:49 - May 11 with 3100 viewsdirk_doone

Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:47 - May 11 by jopreston

That statement makes no sense. We accept someone did this but it was nothing to do with us. So are we saying we are guilty? What a mess.


We are hedging our bets.

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:58 - May 11 with 3068 viewsjopreston

Southampton accept the charges but… on 09:49 - May 11 by dirk_doone

We are hedging our bets.


Surely by accepting the charges we are accepting guilt and culpability? But then we say this person acted alone. So, we are not guilty? Very confusing.
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 10:17 - May 11 with 3018 viewsTimSaint

It's all a load of bollox.

If anyone saw our performance - especially in that 1st half, you would soon realise that even if we did spy, he can't have been very good at his job. We were battered and could easily have been 3 or 4 down at HT.

If it really happened, they were probably only trying to find out if Hackney was involved or not.

As for punishments. Bielsa admitted Leeds did it all season and they got a £200k fine. It looks like if we did it, it was for one game, so it should just be a small fine. All this talk of point deductions and being kicked out of the play-offs is all way out of context.

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 10:43 - May 11 with 2939 viewsIfonly

Southampton accept the charges but… on 10:17 - May 11 by TimSaint

It's all a load of bollox.

If anyone saw our performance - especially in that 1st half, you would soon realise that even if we did spy, he can't have been very good at his job. We were battered and could easily have been 3 or 4 down at HT.

If it really happened, they were probably only trying to find out if Hackney was involved or not.

As for punishments. Bielsa admitted Leeds did it all season and they got a £200k fine. It looks like if we did it, it was for one game, so it should just be a small fine. All this talk of point deductions and being kicked out of the play-offs is all way out of context.


Sadly not. When Leeds did it there were no rules against it and they still got fined £200k. That made the league realise that they needed to introduce potential penalties like points deductions for anyone stupid enough to do it. This is the first case brought under the rules. There's a good chance that they will want to try out their new powers.

If Saints did it then it was probably to see their set piece routines. That's the key information. Saints have been really good at set pieces under Tonda....
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 13:32 - May 11 with 2746 viewsPatfromPoole

It would be beyond hilarious if we were to win 4-0 tomorrow night and with pure comedic filth, the EFL were to decide on Wednesday to award the first leg to Boro with a 3-0 score.

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 17:06 - May 11 with 2519 viewsUTS1885

Until those responsible are sacked the dark cloud will not go away.

This situation should not be down played.
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 17:26 - May 11 with 2478 viewsUmPahars

Just have to ride it out for a few more days!!!!

IF (and it is an IF) we go through, then they will have to sort out logistics for the play off final and there will only be just over a week to do that. Once those arrangements have been made, we won’t be kicked out.

Why?

Well if they start selling us tickets, they can’t then backtrack on us being in the final.

And once the final is played, then the result will have to stand.

Millwall/Hull beat us, then they won’t be letting Middlesbrough have a play off against the winner.

We win, then who goes up instead of us, Boro who we would have beaten or Millwall/Hull who we would have beaten in the final??
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Southampton accept the charges but… on 20:05 - May 11 with 2250 viewscocklebreath

Southampton accept the charges but… on 17:06 - May 11 by UTS1885

Until those responsible are sacked the dark cloud will not go away.

This situation should not be down played.
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fook off you massive fanny. Thankfully most of our fans aren’t like you

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 20:14 - May 11 with 2210 viewsHeisenberg

Can’t see any points deductions. Too complicated as Wrexham who finished 7th will say it’s unfair on them. They won’t throw us out if we win the play offs so if guilty then expect a massive fine and a threat of points deductions if repeated.
I actually expect this is a regular thing so the EFL will want to send out a warning.

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Southampton accept the charges but… on 21:01 - May 11 with 2131 viewsPatfromPoole

Southampton accept the charges but… on 17:06 - May 11 by UTS1885

Until those responsible are sacked the dark cloud will not go away.

This situation should not be down played.
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Seriously, just support the team for now.

We can debate this nonsense once the play-offs are over.

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