| Man City - GUILTY 14:45 - Sep 25 with 34742 views | Northernr |
On all charges. Punishment? Errrrr, haven't decided yet.
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| Man City - GUILTY on 12:12 - Sep 29 with 1620 views | KensalT |
| Man City - GUILTY on 16:53 - Sep 28 by nick_hammersmith |
I mean if they did get relegated to L2 wouldn't it be just as easy for the Saudi investment fund to just buy a Champ club and get back to the Prem in a year?
I don't think they have any love for Man City, they are just the vehicle aren't they? |
The City owners would have to sell City first before taking on another English club. |  | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 12:34 - Sep 29 with 1548 views | kensalriser |
| Man City - GUILTY on 12:12 - Sep 29 by KensalT |
The City owners would have to sell City first before taking on another English club. |
And also, obviously, if they bought a Champ club they'd face the same rules as everyone else - we're been butting up against the limit for years, it wouldn't make any difference if our owners had ten times as much money, they still wouldn't be able to spend it on players. |  |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 12:50 - Sep 29 with 1503 views | KensalT |
| Man City - GUILTY on 12:34 - Sep 29 by kensalriser |
And also, obviously, if they bought a Champ club they'd face the same rules as everyone else - we're been butting up against the limit for years, it wouldn't make any difference if our owners had ten times as much money, they still wouldn't be able to spend it on players. |
That hasn't stopped them up to now  | | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 13:16 - Sep 29 with 1423 views | wombat |
| Man City - GUILTY on 12:50 - Sep 29 by KensalT |
That hasn't stopped them up to now |
Do find it intresting the club havent made any statment in ref to the allegation of us taking a bung for that game , yes we all know its utter bollax but thought something might have been said by us by now |  |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 13:26 - Sep 29 with 1404 views | KensalT |
| Man City - GUILTY on 13:16 - Sep 29 by wombat |
Do find it intresting the club havent made any statment in ref to the allegation of us taking a bung for that game , yes we all know its utter bollax but thought something might have been said by us by now |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 14:26 - Sep 29 with 1311 views | francisbowles |
| Man City - GUILTY on 13:16 - Sep 29 by wombat |
Do find it intresting the club havent made any statment in ref to the allegation of us taking a bung for that game , yes we all know its utter bollax but thought something might have been said by us by now |
Nah, don't feed it, just treat it with the contempt it deserves. |  | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 15:14 - Sep 29 with 1245 views | kensalriser |
Yeah, it would be ridiculous for the club to comment on dumb conspiracy theories. | |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 16:13 - Sep 29 with 1176 views | daveB |
| Man City - GUILTY on 13:16 - Sep 29 by wombat |
Do find it intresting the club havent made any statment in ref to the allegation of us taking a bung for that game , yes we all know its utter bollax but thought something might have been said by us by now |
there is no actual allegation, just a few idiots on social media |  | | |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 16:19 - Sep 29 with 1164 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Man City - GUILTY on 12:12 - Sep 29 by KensalT |
The City owners would have to sell City first before taking on another English club. |
I'm not sure what the value would be at that point, they may as well just liquidate its assets, I doubt they really care or need to get any money back out of it |  | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 16:54 - Sep 29 with 1110 views | KensalT |
"The independent Commission found that between Seasons 2009/10 and 2017/18:
- Manchester City arranged ‘sham’ contracts (which misrepresented the true agreement between the parties) with a number of its commercial partners, as well as relying on ‘sham’ agreements with others, to artificially inflate the club’s revenues and reduce its costs
- The club filed misstated accounts and concealed the true state of its finances from its auditors and football regulators
- Manchester City was significantly in breach of both the Premier League’s and UEFA’s spending limits
- During the Premier League’s investigation, Manchester City committed multiple breaches of its duties of co-operation and utmost good faith towards the League (three of the four alleged breaches were upheld)" | | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 17:07 - Sep 29 with 1046 views | MedwayR |
I can’t help but wonder, considering that chelsea only got found out by their new owners coming clean and City by a hacker based in Germany, how many other clubs are doing such things. Without those two chance circumstances the PL would be none the wiser re chelsea & City. |  |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 17:11 - Sep 29 with 1037 views | KensalT |
This won't be overlooked when it comes time to decide the punishment:
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| Man City - GUILTY on 17:20 - Sep 29 with 1011 views | KensalT |
| Man City - GUILTY on 16:19 - Sep 29 by nick_hammersmith |
I'm not sure what the value would be at that point, they may as well just liquidate its assets, I doubt they really care or need to get any money back out of it |
Then they would probably fail the owners test if they tried to buy another club! | | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 17:24 - Sep 29 with 999 views | KensalT |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 17:57 - Sep 29 with 929 views | daveB |
Man City still claiming it's all rubbish, they are in massive trouble here.
That is horrific.
I quite enjoyed watching their team as a neutral, played some great stuff but it's clear they did all that with financial doping, That whole decade is tainted now. Good job we ended up being shit really | | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 18:29 - Sep 29 with 861 views | Northernr |
| Man City - GUILTY on 17:11 - Sep 29 by KensalT |
This won't be overlooked when it comes time to decide the punishment:
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Yeh. They didn't even say that about Paladini in the Faurlin case, who claimed to have a found a letter saying the whole thing was fine after all in the drawer of his desk about 20 minutes before the hearing. | | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 18:39 - Sep 29 with 821 views | KensalT |
| Man City - GUILTY on 18:29 - Sep 29 by Northernr |
Yeh. They didn't even say that about Paladini in the Faurlin case, who claimed to have a found a letter saying the whole thing was fine after all in the drawer of his desk about 20 minutes before the hearing. |
Must be a Blue Peter fan
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| Man City - GUILTY on 18:40 - Sep 29 with 819 views | ted_hendrix |
Greed, greed, greed. |  |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 18:46 - Sep 29 with 787 views | Northernr |
| Man City - GUILTY on 17:07 - Sep 29 by MedwayR |
I can’t help but wonder, considering that chelsea only got found out by their new owners coming clean and City by a hacker based in Germany, how many other clubs are doing such things. Without those two chance circumstances the PL would be none the wiser re chelsea & City. |
The story Birmingham are telling, for instance, has never added up to me. Again, a new and rich owner pumping money in claiming absolutely ridiculous levels of revenue to justify it. They've had one limited series doc appear on Amazon Prime, otherwise they're the same shtshow Championship club they've always been.
Wrexham - you can see it. Multiple Disney series, United Airlines sponsorships, US tours etc etc. Birmingham I've been wondering about for a while. | | | |
| Man City - GUILTY on 18:51 - Sep 29 with 769 views | PunteR |
They are cooked. |  |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 19:13 - Sep 29 with 714 views | Mick_S |
| Man City - GUILTY on 18:46 - Sep 29 by Northernr |
The story Birmingham are telling, for instance, has never added up to me. Again, a new and rich owner pumping money in claiming absolutely ridiculous levels of revenue to justify it. They've had one limited series doc appear on Amazon Prime, otherwise they're the same shtshow Championship club they've always been.
Wrexham - you can see it. Multiple Disney series, United Airlines sponsorships, US tours etc etc. Birmingham I've been wondering about for a while. |
Re Birmingham, Clive. Yes, very smelly. Have you any idea how close they are to building the stadium that you can see from the Cotswolds?
Jesus, it’s petty, but I really hope that goes tits up. |  |
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| Man City - GUILTY on 19:22 - Sep 29 with 687 views | KensalT |
| Man City - GUILTY on 18:46 - Sep 29 by Northernr |
The story Birmingham are telling, for instance, has never added up to me. Again, a new and rich owner pumping money in claiming absolutely ridiculous levels of revenue to justify it. They've had one limited series doc appear on Amazon Prime, otherwise they're the same shtshow Championship club they've always been.
Wrexham - you can see it. Multiple Disney series, United Airlines sponsorships, US tours etc etc. Birmingham I've been wondering about for a while. |
IIRC in Man City's case there were suggestions the club and the sponsors all had the same owners, so plenty of opportunity to throw silly amounts of money around.
Birmingham City has attracted sponsorship from major brands like Guinness and Coca Cola, and those are clearly independent companies.
Birmingham (the city) is going through major urban regeneration, largely kickstarted by HS2.
Knighthead are riding the coattails of that and have significant backing from government and the local council to help fund their bigger project which is redeveloping the whole area around Small Heath. The football club is a major part of that but the project includes thousands of new jobs and homes and upgraded public transport.
Man City needed to pay silly money for Robinho to really get their football project taken seriously. Birmingham will probably need to do something similar in the future to crack the big time.
That's not to say the Birmingham City story isn't a bit too good to be true but so far all they have achieved is winning League 1. The Wrexham fairy tale has been running for several years already, and might have run its course unless they can make the step up to the PL.
The bigger mystery for me is why the West Midlands has largely been underachieving at football for over a hundred years. Second largest urban population in the country, four sizeable and historic clubs, and yet since the First World War they've won very little compared to the London and North West clubs! [Post edited 29 Sep 19:32]
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