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We were the better team. 10:30 - May 13 with 1404 viewsGRIM

These two matches were a credit to the Championship but no-one can deny that apart from the the first 45 mins when Boro battered us we were the better side.
For the remaining 90 odd minutes we dominated Boro & thoroughly deserved to beat them.
For the last 30 minutes they were legless, like a boxer on the ropes & we just kept them penned into their own half.
Regardless of the ridiculous situation we've got ourselves into with the alleged Spying incident we've come such a long way this season & long may it continue.
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We were the better team. on 10:42 - May 13 with 1354 viewsSaintNick

Whilst what is alleged is cheating, it is not on a grand scale and the media fuelled by the rantings of Kim Hellberg who is desperate to keep his job have blown it out of all proportion.

The actual benefits are minimal and if Boro are so concerned that no one sees their training sessions then why on earth do they have a training ground which is accessible to the public on a big leisure complex with a hotel and golf course.

The guy was caught and all footage deleted, so although the intention might have been there, no crime was committed and thus Boro can't claim that we knew their top secret plans hatched by Hellberg that would have been a revelation to world football once he used them to destroy us completely in both games.

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We were the better team. on 10:58 - May 13 with 1311 viewsDorsetIan

We were the better team. on 10:42 - May 13 by SaintNick

Whilst what is alleged is cheating, it is not on a grand scale and the media fuelled by the rantings of Kim Hellberg who is desperate to keep his job have blown it out of all proportion.

The actual benefits are minimal and if Boro are so concerned that no one sees their training sessions then why on earth do they have a training ground which is accessible to the public on a big leisure complex with a hotel and golf course.

The guy was caught and all footage deleted, so although the intention might have been there, no crime was committed and thus Boro can't claim that we knew their top secret plans hatched by Hellberg that would have been a revelation to world football once he used them to destroy us completely in both games.


I disagree with this.

First an attempt to commit a crime is still, in a lot of cases, a crime. Otherwise, anyone caught before the actual commission of an act could claim no crime was committed, which is not the point.

Secondly, if the rule (or even unwritten rule) is that managers should not be looking at each others training sessions then they should each be entitled to expect that to be honoured. Being watched by members of the public is not the same, and if that rules allows training to happen without high walls being erected then that's a good thing. It's good rule and (if we did) we shouldn't have messed with it.

It's skullduggery and we should be better than that.

I think there's more to this story which will come out. But if it it doesn't we need to take it on the chin rather than try to make excuses for ourselves.

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We were the better team. on 11:04 - May 13 with 1292 viewsIfonly

We were the better team. on 10:58 - May 13 by DorsetIan

I disagree with this.

First an attempt to commit a crime is still, in a lot of cases, a crime. Otherwise, anyone caught before the actual commission of an act could claim no crime was committed, which is not the point.

Secondly, if the rule (or even unwritten rule) is that managers should not be looking at each others training sessions then they should each be entitled to expect that to be honoured. Being watched by members of the public is not the same, and if that rules allows training to happen without high walls being erected then that's a good thing. It's good rule and (if we did) we shouldn't have messed with it.

It's skullduggery and we should be better than that.

I think there's more to this story which will come out. But if it it doesn't we need to take it on the chin rather than try to make excuses for ourselves.


Agreed. If the club is guilty then we need to hold our hands up and admit a big mistake. We don't deserve to be thrown out of the competition but we would deserve some level of punishment if guilty. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
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We were the better team. on 14:16 - May 13 with 1103 viewskingslandstand1

We were the better team. on 11:04 - May 13 by Ifonly

Agreed. If the club is guilty then we need to hold our hands up and admit a big mistake. We don't deserve to be thrown out of the competition but we would deserve some level of punishment if guilty. Learn from your mistakes and move on.


Trouble is, no one WANTS us to move on. It seems everyone and his dog is after our blood and will stop at nothing until we're kicked out of the competition.
Unfortunately for the EFL, we beat them over 2 legs by plate the better football with no benefits taken from any "spying"

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We were the better team. on 14:43 - May 13 with 1082 views1885_SFC

Well if we do lose to Hull in the final, at least we'll have four very feisty games to look forward to next season ; home & away to Pompey and likewise the games against Middlesboro now.

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We were the better team. on 15:14 - May 13 with 1060 viewsshotters

We were the better team. on 14:16 - May 13 by kingslandstand1

Trouble is, no one WANTS us to move on. It seems everyone and his dog is after our blood and will stop at nothing until we're kicked out of the competition.
Unfortunately for the EFL, we beat them over 2 legs by plate the better football with no benefits taken from any "spying"


It might seem like that because it involves Saints so we take more notice

I've spoken to a few friends this morning who support different clubs, none of them think its anything of any importance, one didn't even know it had happened, and think we'll get a fine

If you look, most of the articles in the media are from north eastern based journalists who are being briefed by Middlesborough to keep the story in the media

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We were the better team. on 17:06 - May 13 with 970 viewskingslandstand1

We were the better team. on 14:43 - May 13 by 1885_SFC

Well if we do lose to Hull in the final, at least we'll have four very feisty games to look forward to next season ; home & away to Pompey and likewise the games against Middlesboro now.


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We were the better team. on 17:08 - May 13 with 957 viewsyateleysaint

It’s just northern monkeys flinging shit and hoping some of it sticks.

You cannot reason a person out of something they were not reasoned into.

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We were the better team. on 17:13 - May 13 with 933 views1885_SFC

We were the better team. on 17:06 - May 13 by kingslandstand1

Will they give us more than 2000 tickets fi that is the case


Yep, and a free pair of these with every ticket to help keep your anonymity.


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