| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... 18:28 - Apr 28 with 3167 views | Boris_ | How many of those 95% had chronic and terminal illnesses and how many died WITH Covid-19 as opposed to BECAUSE of Covid-19 https://news.sky.com/story/cor Take Eddie Large for example... was in hospital with terminal heart failure and given days to live BEFORE he contracted Covid-19. He dies of heart failure. His death certificate includes Covid-19 so he's added on to the numbers of Coronavirus deaths. Does that sound right? It's likely that deaths BECAUSE of Coronavirus are likely to be a couple of thousand ( at the most ). BECAUSE and WITH are two completely different things. |  |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 08:40 - Apr 29 with 602 views | Boris_ |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 08:20 - Apr 29 by grumpy | Since when did people wanting to stay in the EU call those that don't a disgusting little Englanders? Since when did people wanting to stay in the EU say uncontrolled immigration is good for the country? Since when did people wanting to stay in the EU call those that don't a racist? Since when did people wanting to stay in the EU say hopefully old people will die and we will have another Brexit referendum! Since when did people wanting to stay in the EU say'Helping our EU and international partners is essential and simply racist to cut these people off'? You're making things up,of course there were extremists on both sides but to say that the majority thought like that is WRONG. As for your'Since the last month or so' its not even worth commenting on. |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 08:49 - Apr 29 with 583 views | Heisenberg |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 07:10 - Apr 29 by JaySaint | The crisis has been fascinating watching how FBPE followers are all over the place.... Before the new year: Making stuff in the UK for the UK means you are a disgusting little Englander! Uncontrolled immigration in good for the country, if you are concerned about how many people are coming here, then you are a fecking racist! Why are we allowing old people to vote, kids are the future, hopefully enough old people will die and we will have another Brexit referendum! Helping our EU and international partners is essential and simply racist to cut these people off. Since the last month or so: The fact we dont make anything any more for the UK is a disgrace. We must lockdown hard and shut the borders, letting people in is killing us. Old people are the best of this country, every death of these people is a national disgrace Why the feck are we dealing with any country but our own, this is a national disgrace and the Tories should pay.. I guess, when it comes to it, we are all brexiteers at heart! |
You seem to have a bit of spare time on your hands posting on here quite a bit. Why not go and work picking fruit ? They are crying out for help worried the crops will be left unpicked. You would be supporting a great British business and filling a job that immigrants are no longer doing now they can't enter the country. Looking at your post it's a perfect fit. |  |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 08:54 - Apr 29 with 580 views | huelinsaint |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 21:24 - Apr 28 by grumpy | 'Nearly Dead' good grief.............. |
The selfish tory mentality i'm afraid |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 08:58 - Apr 29 with 574 views | huelinsaint |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 06:40 - Apr 29 by Boris_ | I don't know why we are counting numbers like it's the Eurovision Song Contest, there are so many different variables when it comes to reporting between each country. Population per square kilometre: England 430 France 117 Spain 91 Italy 207 Germany 240 Australia 3 New Zealand 18 What that means is that the virus can spread twice ( in some cases almost 5 times ) as easily as it can in other countries. Are figures true? Anyone who believes China's figure for example probably needs to stop reading newspapers. How are countries recording deaths? Are other countries recording those who have died WITH Coronavirus or BECAUSE? If we published figures of who died BECAUSE of Coronavirus, looking at all of the other stats, our numbers like likely to be a few thousand who have died, not 25,000 I don't know why people are so obsessed with finding reasons why the government are completely responsible for the deaths and unwilling to look at other contributing factors. England is the most densely populated country in Europe. The virus transmits from person to person... [Post edited 29 Apr 2020 6:46]
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The government aren't responsible for all of the deaths, but they are responsible for the errors and mistakes they've made and should hold their hands up to that and not try to deflect every time a piece of bad news hits our screens |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:01 - Apr 29 with 571 views | huelinsaint |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 07:10 - Apr 29 by JaySaint | The crisis has been fascinating watching how FBPE followers are all over the place.... Before the new year: Making stuff in the UK for the UK means you are a disgusting little Englander! Uncontrolled immigration in good for the country, if you are concerned about how many people are coming here, then you are a fecking racist! Why are we allowing old people to vote, kids are the future, hopefully enough old people will die and we will have another Brexit referendum! Helping our EU and international partners is essential and simply racist to cut these people off. Since the last month or so: The fact we dont make anything any more for the UK is a disgrace. We must lockdown hard and shut the borders, letting people in is killing us. Old people are the best of this country, every death of these people is a national disgrace Why the feck are we dealing with any country but our own, this is a national disgrace and the Tories should pay.. I guess, when it comes to it, we are all brexiteers at heart! |
What will be better an actual improvement after Brexit? No slogans and Daily Mail soundbites please. I'm not FBPE i think they are the dick heads that enabled this government of shysters |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:01 - Apr 29 with 571 views | dirk_doone | The game of politics is all very well when it doesn't really matter. Let's face it, when politicians take the whole summer off for their holidays it doesn't make any difference to the way the country runs, apart from people not having something to argue about. But, in times of crisis, we need to be united and pragmatic. A temporary government of national unity, headed by Boris, with the leaders of the other parties, including the SNP, as his deputies, until this crisis was over, would probably have been the best way forward, as it was in both world wars. It still could be. Even if it were just for a couple of months, it could help heal some of the bitter divisions in our country. It's the countries most divided by bitter political and regional differences, like the UK, the USA, Spain, Italy, France and Belgium, which seem to be suffering the most in this crisis. |  |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:04 - Apr 29 with 564 views | huelinsaint |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 08:40 - Apr 29 by Boris_ | I am honestly baffled at your post. |
I know for a fact your original post would have been completely different if there were a Labour government in power now. Please don't come back with "thank god there isn't one" |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:14 - Apr 29 with 539 views | this_charming_man |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:04 - Apr 29 by huelinsaint | I know for a fact your original post would have been completely different if there were a Labour government in power now. Please don't come back with "thank god there isn't one" |
Perhaps, but they’d be taking advice from the same sources. However quite a few of the CoCs on here would be very different. |  |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:30 - Apr 29 with 520 views | grumpy |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 08:33 - Apr 29 by Bicester_North | You obviously don’t look on Twitter, to be fair to Jay Saint all of those things were said regularly on there during Brexit build up and the election |
No! I don’t look at Twitter and it doesn’t reflect the opinion of the majority. |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:31 - Apr 29 with 517 views | this_charming_man |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:30 - Apr 29 by grumpy | No! I don’t look at Twitter and it doesn’t reflect the opinion of the majority. |
Correct, as you can tell by the lectionary and EU referendum. |  |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:35 - Apr 29 with 515 views | Ron11 |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 07:02 - Apr 29 by Boris_ | See that's the thing. Muppets listen to Piers Morgan shouting out 'Why aren't we like New Zealand?!' and are too thick to understand that their country has 30 times less people per square kilometre than us. It's common sense... unless you have a political agenda and just want to bash the government at every opportunity. |
BBC News last night making a big headline about New Zealand beating the virus. The fact that there are a million less people in NZ than there are in Scotland apparently not a contributory factor. |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:38 - Apr 29 with 511 views | grumpy |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:31 - Apr 29 by this_charming_man | Correct, as you can tell by the lectionary and EU referendum. |
You’re twisting comments as usual . |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:40 - Apr 29 with 510 views | Ron11 |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:04 - Apr 29 by huelinsaint | I know for a fact your original post would have been completely different if there were a Labour government in power now. Please don't come back with "thank god there isn't one" |
If there had been a labour government maybe Corbyn would have got the virus instead. Unfortunately you can't have everything you wish for. |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:49 - Apr 29 with 500 views | grumpy |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:40 - Apr 29 by Ron11 | If there had been a labour government maybe Corbyn would have got the virus instead. Unfortunately you can't have everything you wish for. |
To wish the virus on someone demeans you. |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:49 - Apr 29 with 500 views | Sadoldgit |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:01 - Apr 29 by dirk_doone | The game of politics is all very well when it doesn't really matter. Let's face it, when politicians take the whole summer off for their holidays it doesn't make any difference to the way the country runs, apart from people not having something to argue about. But, in times of crisis, we need to be united and pragmatic. A temporary government of national unity, headed by Boris, with the leaders of the other parties, including the SNP, as his deputies, until this crisis was over, would probably have been the best way forward, as it was in both world wars. It still could be. Even if it were just for a couple of months, it could help heal some of the bitter divisions in our country. It's the countries most divided by bitter political and regional differences, like the UK, the USA, Spain, Italy, France and Belgium, which seem to be suffering the most in this crisis. |
Excellent post! |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:50 - Apr 29 with 498 views | this_charming_man |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:38 - Apr 29 by grumpy | You’re twisting comments as usual . |
How? It’s what you said. Twitter doesn’t represent the majority, we saw this in both results. No twisting pal. [Post edited 29 Apr 2020 9:50]
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:51 - Apr 29 with 493 views | RednWight |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:40 - Apr 29 by Ron11 | If there had been a labour government maybe Corbyn would have got the virus instead. Unfortunately you can't have everything you wish for. |
And what were you hoping for ? A different government or an old man to get this potentially fatal virus ? |  |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:54 - Apr 29 with 485 views | Ron11 |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:49 - Apr 29 by grumpy | To wish the virus on someone demeans you. |
I was referring to your desire for a Labour government. You can't have everything you wish for. How would you feel if poor Jeremy had been struck down because all of you voted him in? |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:56 - Apr 29 with 483 views | Ron11 |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 07:02 - Apr 29 by Boris_ | See that's the thing. Muppets listen to Piers Morgan shouting out 'Why aren't we like New Zealand?!' and are too thick to understand that their country has 30 times less people per square kilometre than us. It's common sense... unless you have a political agenda and just want to bash the government at every opportunity. |
Piers Morgan needs another dose of Ted Nugent. |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:58 - Apr 29 with 478 views | grumpy |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:50 - Apr 29 by this_charming_man | How? It’s what you said. Twitter doesn’t represent the majority, we saw this in both results. No twisting pal. [Post edited 29 Apr 2020 9:50]
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‘Pal’ 😂 |  | |  |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 10:01 - Apr 29 with 477 views | Boris_ |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:04 - Apr 29 by huelinsaint | I know for a fact your original post would have been completely different if there were a Labour government in power now. Please don't come back with "thank god there isn't one" |
That is fake news. I am not Tory, nor Labour or even Lib Dem - I have voted for all of them over the years, based on their policies at the time. I voted Conservative last time due to how Corbyn wanted to cripple business owners and because I believed in Brexit ( even more so now ) , not to mention the thought of him and Abbott in charge was terrifying... In 5 years time once Brexit is done, I may well vote Labour, depending on their policies as early signs are that Starmer comes across quite well. You know it's possible to look at something without politicising things and just look at the facts? [Post edited 29 Apr 2020 10:02]
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 10:11 - Apr 29 with 459 views | Occasional_Showers |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 09:58 - Apr 29 by grumpy | ‘Pal’ 😂 |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 10:12 - Apr 29 with 454 views | Occasional_Showers |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 10:01 - Apr 29 by Boris_ | That is fake news. I am not Tory, nor Labour or even Lib Dem - I have voted for all of them over the years, based on their policies at the time. I voted Conservative last time due to how Corbyn wanted to cripple business owners and because I believed in Brexit ( even more so now ) , not to mention the thought of him and Abbott in charge was terrifying... In 5 years time once Brexit is done, I may well vote Labour, depending on their policies as early signs are that Starmer comes across quite well. You know it's possible to look at something without politicising things and just look at the facts? [Post edited 29 Apr 2020 10:02]
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Really?.. I too have voted Labour in the past but i’d never ever vote for that scum party ever again. |  |
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| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 10:14 - Apr 29 with 448 views | grumpy |
| 95% of victims had serious underlying conditions... on 10:11 - Apr 29 by Occasional_Showers |
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