Good but Derogatory Nick-Names 14:36 - Dec 12 with 4062 views | Chesham_Saint | Ok, so we all know nick-names like wet spam and spuds are pretty pathetic. Likewise Saints being called ‘scummers’ as the word is used by many clubs (at least in the ‘scum’ form) to describe hated rivals. ‘Skates’ on the other hand, is quite brilliant as it is unique to them, historically accurate and grossly insulting. The Blue Few and Portsdown Hillbillies (given their inter-breeding) are also acceptable in my book. As for other names, I do have a wry smile when I see opposition fans refer to us as ‘Stains’ as it’s a simple rearrangement of our name (and therefore unique), uncomplimentary and also a bit funny. ‘Jam Rags’ and ‘Deck Chairs’ are used for the likes of Sunderland and Stoke as well, so don’t cut it. Another name I though was quite good recently was West Brom fans referring to Wolves as the ‘Dog Heads’. Anyone have any more? | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 14:59 - Dec 12 with 2392 views | dirk_doone | Scummer has been in use for at least 500 years as it is simply the old nickname for pirates or buccaneers. scummer [ˈskʌmə] NOUN archaic a person who attacks and robs ships at sea; a pirate. synonyms: pirate · buccaneer · marauder · raider · plunderer · freebooter · privateer · picaroon · filibuster · sea dog · sea rover · rover · reaver · marooner · sea thief · sea robber · sea wolf https://www.lexico.com/definition/scummer In more recent decades it has become a common nickname that smaller teams' fans use for their bigger local rivals: Maybe they feel they have been robbed of success and fans by them. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scummer Sheffield United and Wednesday fans call each other pigs, a term which originates not from the farm animal but from the pig iron used in the steel industry. The best nickname for Pompey fans is the Worzels as most of them come from the Hampshire countryside. Other football firms used to call the 6.57 the Farmers. The way John Petersfield Westwood dresses like Worzel Gummidge epitomizes their rustic character. Skate was common slang in Portsmouth for an RN sailor long before Nick held his poll to make it our new nickname for Pompey fans, so it's a bit silly us using it. When you call someone a skate in Portsmouth it just means he is in the Royal Navy. Their fans don't find it insulting at all. In fact, they quite like it. It's a bit like calling Aldershot fans squaddies. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 15:31]
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 15:44 - Dec 12 with 2338 views | Chesham_Saint |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 14:59 - Dec 12 by dirk_doone | Scummer has been in use for at least 500 years as it is simply the old nickname for pirates or buccaneers. scummer [ˈskʌmə] NOUN archaic a person who attacks and robs ships at sea; a pirate. synonyms: pirate · buccaneer · marauder · raider · plunderer · freebooter · privateer · picaroon · filibuster · sea dog · sea rover · rover · reaver · marooner · sea thief · sea robber · sea wolf https://www.lexico.com/definition/scummer In more recent decades it has become a common nickname that smaller teams' fans use for their bigger local rivals: Maybe they feel they have been robbed of success and fans by them. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scummer Sheffield United and Wednesday fans call each other pigs, a term which originates not from the farm animal but from the pig iron used in the steel industry. The best nickname for Pompey fans is the Worzels as most of them come from the Hampshire countryside. Other football firms used to call the 6.57 the Farmers. The way John Petersfield Westwood dresses like Worzel Gummidge epitomizes their rustic character. Skate was common slang in Portsmouth for an RN sailor long before Nick held his poll to make it our new nickname for Pompey fans, so it's a bit silly us using it. When you call someone a skate in Portsmouth it just means he is in the Royal Navy. Their fans don't find it insulting at all. In fact, they quite like it. It's a bit like calling Aldershot fans squaddies. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 15:31]
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When I was at school in the 1970s in portsMyth the local lads didn’t like sailors at all and used to indulge in skate bashing - particularly if they were northerners. They stood out with their short hair and were easy targets. All went well until they went for a bunch of guys with very short hair who turned out to be US Marines on shore leave and had the living shit kicked out of them. Semper fi and all that. As for ‘Worzels’ surely that’s generally associated with West Country cider drinkers not Hampshire’s ‘untermensch’? | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 16:18 - Dec 12 with 2331 views | dirk_doone | No, it's a relatively modern term. Its slang use originated in the Meon Valley, where the author Barbara Euphan Todd based the characters in her 1930s Worzel Gummidge books on the locals. Of course the word wurzel originated in Germany and is a root vegetable, the mangelwurzel, which was commonly cultivated by poor peasants. In the twentieth century it became slang for backward rural people in areas like East Anglia, Hampshire and the West Country, mainly because of Todd's books, and then the group, the Worzels popularized it in the 60s. The reason Pompey fans hate it so much is that they like to project a mythical image of themselves as working class inner city kids from some legendary south coast version of London's East End when in fact the vast majority of them come from middle class suburbs, villages and small towns in the Hampshire countryside, like Cowplain, East Meon and Petersfield. In every interview Westwood goes on about being working class when the truth is he is an antiquarian bookshop owner from Petersfield. Surprisingly, among the inhabitants of central Portsmouth, there isn't much interest in the local football team. The fans pour in from outside the city on match day and are regarded as a bit of a nuisance by the locals. Pompey have one of the most rural fanbases in the country, which is why they are really Worzels, not Skates. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 16:42]
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 16:48 - Dec 12 with 2295 views | Berber |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 14:59 - Dec 12 by dirk_doone | Scummer has been in use for at least 500 years as it is simply the old nickname for pirates or buccaneers. scummer [ˈskʌmə] NOUN archaic a person who attacks and robs ships at sea; a pirate. synonyms: pirate · buccaneer · marauder · raider · plunderer · freebooter · privateer · picaroon · filibuster · sea dog · sea rover · rover · reaver · marooner · sea thief · sea robber · sea wolf https://www.lexico.com/definition/scummer In more recent decades it has become a common nickname that smaller teams' fans use for their bigger local rivals: Maybe they feel they have been robbed of success and fans by them. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scummer Sheffield United and Wednesday fans call each other pigs, a term which originates not from the farm animal but from the pig iron used in the steel industry. The best nickname for Pompey fans is the Worzels as most of them come from the Hampshire countryside. Other football firms used to call the 6.57 the Farmers. The way John Petersfield Westwood dresses like Worzel Gummidge epitomizes their rustic character. Skate was common slang in Portsmouth for an RN sailor long before Nick held his poll to make it our new nickname for Pompey fans, so it's a bit silly us using it. When you call someone a skate in Portsmouth it just means he is in the Royal Navy. Their fans don't find it insulting at all. In fact, they quite like it. It's a bit like calling Aldershot fans squaddies. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 15:31]
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I have always, since the late 60s defined Porstmouth as Aldershot by Sea. | | | |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 17:02 - Dec 12 with 2287 views | Chesham_Saint |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 16:18 - Dec 12 by dirk_doone | No, it's a relatively modern term. Its slang use originated in the Meon Valley, where the author Barbara Euphan Todd based the characters in her 1930s Worzel Gummidge books on the locals. Of course the word wurzel originated in Germany and is a root vegetable, the mangelwurzel, which was commonly cultivated by poor peasants. In the twentieth century it became slang for backward rural people in areas like East Anglia, Hampshire and the West Country, mainly because of Todd's books, and then the group, the Worzels popularized it in the 60s. The reason Pompey fans hate it so much is that they like to project a mythical image of themselves as working class inner city kids from some legendary south coast version of London's East End when in fact the vast majority of them come from middle class suburbs, villages and small towns in the Hampshire countryside, like Cowplain, East Meon and Petersfield. In every interview Westwood goes on about being working class when the truth is he is an antiquarian bookshop owner from Petersfield. Surprisingly, among the inhabitants of central Portsmouth, there isn't much interest in the local football team. The fans pour in from outside the city on match day and are regarded as a bit of a nuisance by the locals. Pompey have one of the most rural fanbases in the country, which is why they are really Worzels, not Skates. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 16:42]
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I’d say football fans generally regard the likes of Norwich (carrot crunchers) and Ipswich (tractor boys) as rural, and that’s before you get on to the likes of the Bristol clubs and Yeovil. Thanks to the ‘Cider Drinker’ Worzels group you’re never, ever going to shift popular misconceptions like that, no matter how historically and geographically accurate you are. The skates may have a following up the Meon valley but the reality is 99% of people relate them to the RN - they even used to have a sailor walk around the touch line before kick off, FFS. | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 17:32 - Dec 12 with 2264 views | DorsetIan | In his new book, John Cooper Clarke talks about singing, to the Top Cat theme tune, a song called ‚Kop Tw@ts‘ at Old Trafford. It was a new one to me. | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 19:15 - Dec 12 with 2208 views | Butty101 | Chicken George Lawrence | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 19:18 - Dec 12 with 2206 views | MytchettSaint | I have always liked the “Stripey Nigel’s” one used towards Crystal Palace fans that appeared about the same time their holmesdale fanatics became a thing. | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 19:48 - Dec 12 with 2173 views | cocklebreath |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 19:18 - Dec 12 by MytchettSaint | I have always liked the “Stripey Nigel’s” one used towards Crystal Palace fans that appeared about the same time their holmesdale fanatics became a thing. |
Beat me to it, good nickname | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 20:09 - Dec 12 with 2147 views | Chesham_Saint |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 19:18 - Dec 12 by MytchettSaint | I have always liked the “Stripey Nigel’s” one used towards Crystal Palace fans that appeared about the same time their holmesdale fanatics became a thing. |
Yes I’d heard that but I was worried it hard been invented by that dickhead on Talksport Adrian Durham? | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 21:09 - Dec 12 with 2115 views | Bicester_North | Always liked “smog monsters” given to Middlesbrough by other northerners | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 21:49 - Dec 12 with 2091 views | RednWight |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 14:59 - Dec 12 by dirk_doone | Scummer has been in use for at least 500 years as it is simply the old nickname for pirates or buccaneers. scummer [ˈskʌmə] NOUN archaic a person who attacks and robs ships at sea; a pirate. synonyms: pirate · buccaneer · marauder · raider · plunderer · freebooter · privateer · picaroon · filibuster · sea dog · sea rover · rover · reaver · marooner · sea thief · sea robber · sea wolf https://www.lexico.com/definition/scummer In more recent decades it has become a common nickname that smaller teams' fans use for their bigger local rivals: Maybe they feel they have been robbed of success and fans by them. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scummer Sheffield United and Wednesday fans call each other pigs, a term which originates not from the farm animal but from the pig iron used in the steel industry. The best nickname for Pompey fans is the Worzels as most of them come from the Hampshire countryside. Other football firms used to call the 6.57 the Farmers. The way John Petersfield Westwood dresses like Worzel Gummidge epitomizes their rustic character. Skate was common slang in Portsmouth for an RN sailor long before Nick held his poll to make it our new nickname for Pompey fans, so it's a bit silly us using it. When you call someone a skate in Portsmouth it just means he is in the Royal Navy. Their fans don't find it insulting at all. In fact, they quite like it. It's a bit like calling Aldershot fans squaddies. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 15:31]
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West Brom fans call Wolves supporters Worzels | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 21:59 - Dec 12 with 2083 views | dirk_doone |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 21:49 - Dec 12 by RednWight | West Brom fans call Wolves supporters Worzels |
Yes, it's one of those nicknames like Pikeys, used by both Millwall and West Ham for each other, which no football fans like to be called, as it suggests they are harmless bumpkins. Of course, Bumpkins would be another good one if you really looked down on your rivals. Most fans prefer to be called a nickname like Mackems or Skates, which has a bit of an urban or military edge to it. Professional football evolved as a sport for the industrial working classes in urban areas, who would look down on the naive bumpkins from the countryside. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 22:08]
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:09 - Dec 12 with 2056 views | DENZY |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 21:49 - Dec 12 by RednWight | West Brom fans call Wolves supporters Worzels |
I thought Wolves were known as the Dingles? | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:10 - Dec 12 with 2055 views | dirk_doone |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:09 - Dec 12 by DENZY | I thought Wolves were known as the Dingles? |
Same idea as it suggests rural peasants, a dingle being a wooded valley and of course the gormless Dingle family on Emmerdale is exactly what no football fan wants to look like. Dingle is basically the northern equivalent of Worzel. Scummers is a good one as pirates are considered to be quite hard and dangerous. There are even sports teams named after them, like the Poole Pirates and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 22:24]
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:28 - Dec 12 with 2022 views | ericofarabia | I thought Dingles was a Blackburn / Burnley thing. | | | |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:29 - Dec 12 with 2019 views | dirk_doone |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:28 - Dec 12 by ericofarabia | I thought Dingles was a Blackburn / Burnley thing. |
It's a northern thing whereas Worzels is a southern one. The idea of a derogatory nickname in football is to make your rivals sound gormless and harmless. Millwall creating Stripey Nigels for Palace when they started their Ultras was brilliant. The use of derogatory nicknames is basically a form of bullying and Millwall fans are masters at that. [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 0:42]
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:33 - Dec 12 with 2012 views | kingslandstand1 | There's also the Newcastle "Barcodes" due to their shirts | | | |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:35 - Dec 12 with 2007 views | dirk_doone |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 22:33 - Dec 12 by kingslandstand1 | There's also the Newcastle "Barcodes" due to their shirts |
No Newcastle fan feels offended by it though, the same as no Sunderland fan feels offended by being called a Mackem. | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 08:50 - Dec 13 with 1881 views | kernow | Hartlepools United are monkey hangers or chimp chokers. | | | |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 09:29 - Dec 13 with 1846 views | Chesham_Saint |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 08:50 - Dec 13 by kernow | Hartlepools United are monkey hangers or chimp chokers. |
That is excellent and built on an historic event too. Didn’t they elect a mayor dressed as a chimp once as well? | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 14:24 - Dec 13 with 1798 views | Bison |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 09:29 - Dec 13 by Chesham_Saint | That is excellent and built on an historic event too. Didn’t they elect a mayor dressed as a chimp once as well? |
That was to do with the Spanish Armada , a ship was wrecked and I live chimp washed up on Hartlepool's shore. Never ever seeing a Spaniard or French man they tried him found him guilty of being the fore said so they hung the monkey. | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 17:14 - Dec 13 with 1743 views | DorsetIan | I‘m pretty sure they call themselves the monkey-hangers, so does that count? Stood with few hundred Stockport fans behind goal at Victoria Park once. Very very unpleasant welcome throughout the game from Pool fans to the left. Got to be one of the bleakest parts of the country. Made Darlington seem like Beverley Hills. Brian Clough never stopped referring to them as ‚Hartlepools’. | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 20:22 - Dec 13 with 1699 views | Chesham_Saint |
Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 17:14 - Dec 13 by DorsetIan | I‘m pretty sure they call themselves the monkey-hangers, so does that count? Stood with few hundred Stockport fans behind goal at Victoria Park once. Very very unpleasant welcome throughout the game from Pool fans to the left. Got to be one of the bleakest parts of the country. Made Darlington seem like Beverley Hills. Brian Clough never stopped referring to them as ‚Hartlepools’. |
I think they were officially once called ‘Hartlepools’ when they started and dropped the ‘s’ at some point. The monkey hanger thing was much later than the Armada, when a French Napoleonic warship founders off the coast... | |
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Good but Derogatory Nick-Names on 14:47 - Dec 14 with 1602 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Let's be honest, one of the best nicknames for any club in the country is: Trophy Dodgers And there are few other clubs in the country to match Soton's sheer underachievement in terms of silverware for size of club. Hardly any clubs can aspire to your club's on-going lack of credibility in the 'filling the trophy cabinet stakes'. [Post edited 14 Dec 2020 14:49]
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