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I’ve waited a bit to see what came out but it seems it’s just masked military style men on the streets shooting an unarmed woman trying to drive a way.
The interpretation of events from Trump and particularly Vance are so fantastical you’d laugh if it want so sad.
Of course I seen it, I haven't said anything different, you would have to get up very early to get me on a point of order, as I have no agenda, I don't lie like most people on the net do.
What is interesting is you say an ICE agent told told her to drive if so she was also told to get out the car, so they might have killed her whatever she did.
I've just seen a poll on the incident, Americans (yes gun totting Americans) overwhelming think the killing was not justified and most of them think their Government version of what happened is lies.
"as I have no agenda" really ? your posting on this subject would suggest otherwise .
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
The evidence is damning she turned the wheel away from the officer and was executed, apparently she had just dropped her 6 year old off at school, dog in the back of the car, a mother of 3 children of a certain age, she was no threat and that should have been obvious, I seen the videos, the comms, everyone's position at various times, the timeline's etc and its shocking. Nothing aggressive was said, armed masked men attempted to get into her car, she moved the wheel away from the officer who was walking around the car and basically touching it he was so close and she went to drive off, she could not have hurt him if she tried from a few inches away at a standing start, but that clearly was not the case as she turned the wheel away from him, looks like she was shot through the corner and the windscreen and twice through the open side passenger window, the car only picked up speed because she was dead. I seen the doctor at the side of the road saying "I'm a physician let me check her pulse, just let me check her pulse", but it looked like the armed masked men were going to kill the doctor, I didn't want to watch that video again with the body in the car to listen to what the armed man who came towards the doctor said but I got the sense they would have killed him. The guy that did the killing and his colleagues jumped in an unmarked car with a bystander shouting over and over "don't let him get away, don't let him get away", but she was shouting at stormtroopers not ordinary police they seemed to be all in it together. The President and vice president spun some ridiculous story that the blokes life was in danger, there was nothing wrong with him he stayed on his feet the whole time, holding a phone filming in one hand and shooting with the other, he never even dropped the phone. It's a worry what Trump and Vance is doing to America.
I'm not saying if it was right or wrong, but all the information you provided in the first paragraph was not available to the person who fired the shot so irrelevant. They had to act on what they could see and directions they had received from superior officials.
"as I have no agenda" really ? your posting on this subject would suggest otherwise .
The guy is an expert on giving an opinion whilst in a state of delusion, wishful thinking and denial.
In fact, he would, in similar circumstances, whilst on duty in the imaginary capacity as a serving police officer have performed with supernatural ability and absolute distinction, by freezing time for split-second life and death decisions.
He apparently thinks that he is better at knowing/doing stuff than retired or serving police officers, and he even (previous from him) knows better than South Wales NHS professionals who know exactly what would happen to Wales's NHS ( (NHSBT etc) in the event of full devolution.
Why are Welsh Nats crackpots so far removed from reality? Critical thinking, common sense and grasp of reality hey!
Latest now is that six Minnesota prosecutors have resigned in protest over the direction of the I.C.E.-shooting investigation. The Government apparently want the 'wife' to be investigated for being a domestic terrorist and the shooter not to be investigated, these non political career prosecutors are outraged at their Government and are resigning rather than do what the Government want as along with the majority of the public they think that how the Government are handling the situation is all wrong.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
The guy is an expert on giving an opinion whilst in a state of delusion, wishful thinking and denial.
In fact, he would, in similar circumstances, whilst on duty in the imaginary capacity as a serving police officer have performed with supernatural ability and absolute distinction, by freezing time for split-second life and death decisions.
He apparently thinks that he is better at knowing/doing stuff than retired or serving police officers, and he even (previous from him) knows better than South Wales NHS professionals who know exactly what would happen to Wales's NHS ( (NHSBT etc) in the event of full devolution.
Why are Welsh Nats crackpots so far removed from reality? Critical thinking, common sense and grasp of reality hey!
Imagine a Plaid/Green Coalition! Talk about the inmates taking over the asylum. I wondered if Llinos Medi meant just Wales when she seemed to make the off-the-wall claim that net migration was negative. On checking even Wales had significantly more arriving than leaving for both 2023 and 2024.
Imagine a Plaid/Green Coalition! Talk about the inmates taking over the asylum. I wondered if Llinos Medi meant just Wales when she seemed to make the off-the-wall claim that net migration was negative. On checking even Wales had significantly more arriving than leaving for both 2023 and 2024.
Plaid and their supporters really are thicker than a Whale Omelette....
TENS OF MILLIONS!?
Let's see what that might look like eh Llinos Medi-cation?
Imagine your native language nearly becoming extinct in the mid C20th, so you spend decades vandalising and spraying roadsigns, firebombing estate agents and holiday cottages and being outwardly and unashamedly hostile to your English neighbours whether they're holiday makers or retirees, driving them away from your ethnic homeland with open hostility back over the border or Severn bridge...imagine that...?
Finally, after 30-40 years, like the petulant spoilt children you are your tantrums are caved into and indulged beyond your widlest dreams by a devolved pro-Iaith government and the language starts to flourish again, the arts have a Cymric renaissance, Welsh is compulsory in schools again, bilingualism is a must for public sector jobs, Cool Cymru is everywhere and Mr Urdd is strutting about everywhere with a massive red white and green boner with pure Welsh dragon fire bursting from his funicular fundament...!
"Iesu Grist, Rydym wedi ein Hachub! Arglwydd Mawr Bois Bach !"
But then, that's not enough for the rampant leftist idealogues in the Plaid ranks is it ?... Trots first and a Cymro/Cymraes second, they wilfully ignore the utter car crash of mass immigration elsewhere in the UK, and so Wales is reborn in its new found confidence as a Nation of Sanctuary for all comers ("except for them Saes bustards like obviously innit ?- ych a fi mun ! ") despite not having a fiscal pot to piss in ourselves...
So in a suicidal 'Darwin Awards move' of biblical proportions the floodgates are opened to all and sundry....
Fast forward and the year is 2075 - Llinos the Twp is long dead...but Welsh is almost unheard of in Wales, in fact you hardly hear English spoken anywhere on the streets since the principality became a Caliphate after the Islamic Revolution of 2049... but Pashtun, Gujerati, Urdu and Bengali are widely spoken and observed everywhere alongside Sudanese, Somalian and Eritrean....including all multilingual roadsigns, street signs and at public transport hubs (each sign now 5 times the size it was in 2026 of course, but thankfully the manadtory 20mph speed limits introduced over 50 years ago ensures we now have plenty of time to read them properly..) Uber are now Wales's largest company with a turnover of £126billion a year and their busiest time of year is around the national festival in May - The Eid-Steddfod - when they ferry millions of citizens to the festival site to watch the many stonings and beheadings for apostasy and speeches by radical celebrity Imams. Nearly every church and chapel is now a Mosque. The Welsh Medium schools have long gone and are all Madrassahs now. On the plus side however there are an extra 600 million sheep in Wales grazing to feed the exploding population and it's thirst for a nice bit of grass-fed halal mutton. The former Areas of Oustanding Natural Beauty like Gower and the Beacons have been turned over to pasture alongside newly constructed Islamic themed towns and villages each with it's own 10,000 seater super-mosque to accomodate the masses. The biggest one in the Caliphate of Wales is at the foot of Pen-y-Fan on the site of the former Storey Arms and is popular with hikers, sheep-farmers and those using the rugged terrain for ISIS training purposes. When dogs were finally banned by the former Senedd (now called Majlis al-Nuwaab Cardiff) for being haram in 2053 everyone stopped using the great outdoors to walk them in so the land was made available for taxpayer-funded development....
It's all been a right roaring success for the people of Wales so it has, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise..
Black Panthers are back, they are openly carring massive rifles, police come up to them and they tell the police to f*ck off and the police ran away. They told the police that they are protecting the community (from Government agents killing people) as the police aren't, they called the police sell outs to their faces, I think somebody could get hurt (on either side) if ICE confront the Black Panthers.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
Plaid and their supporters really are thicker than a Whale Omelette....
TENS OF MILLIONS!?
Let's see what that might look like eh Llinos Medi-cation?
Imagine your native language nearly becoming extinct in the mid C20th, so you spend decades vandalising and spraying roadsigns, firebombing estate agents and holiday cottages and being outwardly and unashamedly hostile to your English neighbours whether they're holiday makers or retirees, driving them away from your ethnic homeland with open hostility back over the border or Severn bridge...imagine that...?
Finally, after 30-40 years, like the petulant spoilt children you are your tantrums are caved into and indulged beyond your widlest dreams by a devolved pro-Iaith government and the language starts to flourish again, the arts have a Cymric renaissance, Welsh is compulsory in schools again, bilingualism is a must for public sector jobs, Cool Cymru is everywhere and Mr Urdd is strutting about everywhere with a massive red white and green boner with pure Welsh dragon fire bursting from his funicular fundament...!
"Iesu Grist, Rydym wedi ein Hachub! Arglwydd Mawr Bois Bach !"
But then, that's not enough for the rampant leftist idealogues in the Plaid ranks is it ?... Trots first and a Cymro/Cymraes second, they wilfully ignore the utter car crash of mass immigration elsewhere in the UK, and so Wales is reborn in its new found confidence as a Nation of Sanctuary for all comers ("except for them Saes bustards like obviously innit ?- ych a fi mun ! ") despite not having a fiscal pot to piss in ourselves...
So in a suicidal 'Darwin Awards move' of biblical proportions the floodgates are opened to all and sundry....
Fast forward and the year is 2075 - Llinos the Twp is long dead...but Welsh is almost unheard of in Wales, in fact you hardly hear English spoken anywhere on the streets since the principality became a Caliphate after the Islamic Revolution of 2049... but Pashtun, Gujerati, Urdu and Bengali are widely spoken and observed everywhere alongside Sudanese, Somalian and Eritrean....including all multilingual roadsigns, street signs and at public transport hubs (each sign now 5 times the size it was in 2026 of course, but thankfully the manadtory 20mph speed limits introduced over 50 years ago ensures we now have plenty of time to read them properly..) Uber are now Wales's largest company with a turnover of £126billion a year and their busiest time of year is around the national festival in May - The Eid-Steddfod - when they ferry millions of citizens to the festival site to watch the many stonings and beheadings for apostasy and speeches by radical celebrity Imams. Nearly every church and chapel is now a Mosque. The Welsh Medium schools have long gone and are all Madrassahs now. On the plus side however there are an extra 600 million sheep in Wales grazing to feed the exploding population and it's thirst for a nice bit of grass-fed halal mutton. The former Areas of Oustanding Natural Beauty like Gower and the Beacons have been turned over to pasture alongside newly constructed Islamic themed towns and villages each with it's own 10,000 seater super-mosque to accomodate the masses. The biggest one in the Caliphate of Wales is at the foot of Pen-y-Fan on the site of the former Storey Arms and is popular with hikers, sheep-farmers and those using the rugged terrain for ISIS training purposes. When dogs were finally banned by the former Senedd (now called Majlis al-Nuwaab Cardiff) for being haram in 2053 everyone stopped using the great outdoors to walk them in so the land was made available for taxpayer-funded development....
It's all been a right roaring success for the people of Wales so it has, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise..
Cymru am Byth !
"Is this the real life? Or is this just fantasy?"
[Post edited 18 Jan 1:08]
Plaid and Minneapolis politicians, oh dear!
It's college campus protester and Militant tendency lunacy stuff, where the 'magic-money-tree' will pay for it all. And when a government ruins a country? The brightest and best leave, I have seen it with members of my own family.
And that silly Plaid women has the common sense of a gnat by her failure to realise that Afghan women also have children and husbands that the 'magic-money-tree' will have to pay for to.
Plaid and their supporters really are thicker than a Whale Omelette....
TENS OF MILLIONS!?
Let's see what that might look like eh Llinos Medi-cation?
Imagine your native language nearly becoming extinct in the mid C20th, so you spend decades vandalising and spraying roadsigns, firebombing estate agents and holiday cottages and being outwardly and unashamedly hostile to your English neighbours whether they're holiday makers or retirees, driving them away from your ethnic homeland with open hostility back over the border or Severn bridge...imagine that...?
Finally, after 30-40 years, like the petulant spoilt children you are your tantrums are caved into and indulged beyond your widlest dreams by a devolved pro-Iaith government and the language starts to flourish again, the arts have a Cymric renaissance, Welsh is compulsory in schools again, bilingualism is a must for public sector jobs, Cool Cymru is everywhere and Mr Urdd is strutting about everywhere with a massive red white and green boner with pure Welsh dragon fire bursting from his funicular fundament...!
"Iesu Grist, Rydym wedi ein Hachub! Arglwydd Mawr Bois Bach !"
But then, that's not enough for the rampant leftist idealogues in the Plaid ranks is it ?... Trots first and a Cymro/Cymraes second, they wilfully ignore the utter car crash of mass immigration elsewhere in the UK, and so Wales is reborn in its new found confidence as a Nation of Sanctuary for all comers ("except for them Saes bustards like obviously innit ?- ych a fi mun ! ") despite not having a fiscal pot to piss in ourselves...
So in a suicidal 'Darwin Awards move' of biblical proportions the floodgates are opened to all and sundry....
Fast forward and the year is 2075 - Llinos the Twp is long dead...but Welsh is almost unheard of in Wales, in fact you hardly hear English spoken anywhere on the streets since the principality became a Caliphate after the Islamic Revolution of 2049... but Pashtun, Gujerati, Urdu and Bengali are widely spoken and observed everywhere alongside Sudanese, Somalian and Eritrean....including all multilingual roadsigns, street signs and at public transport hubs (each sign now 5 times the size it was in 2026 of course, but thankfully the manadtory 20mph speed limits introduced over 50 years ago ensures we now have plenty of time to read them properly..) Uber are now Wales's largest company with a turnover of £126billion a year and their busiest time of year is around the national festival in May - The Eid-Steddfod - when they ferry millions of citizens to the festival site to watch the many stonings and beheadings for apostasy and speeches by radical celebrity Imams. Nearly every church and chapel is now a Mosque. The Welsh Medium schools have long gone and are all Madrassahs now. On the plus side however there are an extra 600 million sheep in Wales grazing to feed the exploding population and it's thirst for a nice bit of grass-fed halal mutton. The former Areas of Oustanding Natural Beauty like Gower and the Beacons have been turned over to pasture alongside newly constructed Islamic themed towns and villages each with it's own 10,000 seater super-mosque to accomodate the masses. The biggest one in the Caliphate of Wales is at the foot of Pen-y-Fan on the site of the former Storey Arms and is popular with hikers, sheep-farmers and those using the rugged terrain for ISIS training purposes. When dogs were finally banned by the former Senedd (now called Majlis al-Nuwaab Cardiff) for being haram in 2053 everyone stopped using the great outdoors to walk them in so the land was made available for taxpayer-funded development....
It's all been a right roaring success for the people of Wales so it has, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise..
Cymru am Byth !
"Is this the real life? Or is this just fantasy?"
[Post edited 18 Jan 1:08]
Many thought BR was pretentious tw@ttism What a post Butt I’ve not worked out how migrants flowing into Wales will help the Welsh language Still, it’s the English that’s the problem with their wealth and language of oppressor that drives Plaid Let nobody think they are other than narrow minded English hating hypocrites
ICE agents, are the equivalent of the 30s brownshirts. Lawless thugs who are dividing the country
The qualifying bar has indeed been lowered, even being a passerby pedestrian makes a person a "NAZI" nowadays. Everyone is a "Nazi" apart from those that make false accusations of.
How dare someone be uncooperative with Daniel Lump Jefford i.e. a skateboarding dreadlocked anarcho-communist man-child. Ditto Lisa Nandy and her definition of "FASCIST".
The fantastic thing is own-goal guys/gals like the guy making the video and Lisa Nandy are going to get the complete and utter opposite result of what they want at the ballot box, because sane and rational people happen to prefer law and order and their own and families public safety to that of a dangerous and lawless society.
The qualifying bar has indeed been lowered, even being a passerby pedestrian makes a person a "NAZI" nowadays. Everyone is a "Nazi" apart from those that make false accusations of.
How dare someone be uncooperative with Daniel Lump Jefford i.e. a skateboarding dreadlocked anarcho-communist man-child. Ditto Lisa Nandy and her definition of "FASCIST".
The fantastic thing is own-goal guys/gals like the guy making the video and Lisa Nandy are going to get the complete and utter opposite result of what they want at the ballot box, because sane and rational people happen to prefer law and order and their own and families public safety to that of a dangerous and lawless society.
[Post edited 18 Jan 13:51]
I find it hard to understand her but she’s certainly aligned either way her constituents as she’s certainly been at those pies
It depends on whose stats you want to believe. Wall Street Apes is a site associated with posting false, AI and it is associated with far right postings.
Meanwhile, if you go to the horses mouth as it were and actually check the facts, it’s apparent that on the 20th of December 2025 the DHS reported that 605,000 were deported from the US last year and that a a further 1.9m left voluntarily with a free flight and $1,000.
Just because something is posted on Twitter and amplified by the likes of Elon Musk doesn’t make it true. It’s a classic disinformation tactic to mislead.
It depends on whose stats you want to believe. Wall Street Apes is a site associated with posting false, AI and it is associated with far right postings.
Meanwhile, if you go to the horses mouth as it were and actually check the facts, it’s apparent that on the 20th of December 2025 the DHS reported that 605,000 were deported from the US last year and that a a further 1.9m left voluntarily with a free flight and $1,000.
Just because something is posted on Twitter and amplified by the likes of Elon Musk doesn’t make it true. It’s a classic disinformation tactic to mislead.
Makes you wonder what point they were trying to make - that Obama was more successful in doing the things they want to happen?
It's getting harder and harder to separate AI from reality but if you can't see that twitter posters like that are tosh then you're part of the problem.
Makes you wonder what point they were trying to make - that Obama was more successful in doing the things they want to happen?
It's getting harder and harder to separate AI from reality but if you can't see that twitter posters like that are tosh then you're part of the problem.
Seeing as ICE have been around for a quarter of a century the pertinent question would be have they always been operating in the same way as we are seeing now or are they just getting more negative attention from the anti-Trump media? There is of course the issue of the increased resistance they are facing due to this media storm which will inevitably create a level of confrontation and tension they may not have had before.
There are stats online that suggest that there have been years where arrests have been a lot higher than they are now and also deaths involving ICE and custody have been higher.
If Trump is a fascist and a Nazi for deploying ICE in the same way as previous presidents then by definition Bush, Obama and Biden must be Nazi fascists too.
Seeing as ICE have been around for a quarter of a century the pertinent question would be have they always been operating in the same way as we are seeing now or are they just getting more negative attention from the anti-Trump media? There is of course the issue of the increased resistance they are facing due to this media storm which will inevitably create a level of confrontation and tension they may not have had before.
There are stats online that suggest that there have been years where arrests have been a lot higher than they are now and also deaths involving ICE and custody have been higher.
If Trump is a fascist and a Nazi for deploying ICE in the same way as previous presidents then by definition Bush, Obama and Biden must be Nazi fascists too.
Unfortunately the politics in journalism is too easily accepted these days.
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