| Just back 17:49 - Jan 24 with 6384 views | BlackCrowe |
Aaargh...sooooo disappointing.
Game should have been put to bed at half time, we played very very well and then a couple of our players went a bit quiet in the second half. Mbenge red changed the game but to be honest, he really doesn't look suited to right back position and hasn't done for a few games. Wrexham were good value though, helped by a ridiculously lenient ref, and certainly know how to rifle shots on target from distance.
But overall a great game and we played well enough i reckon...very disappoiting. |  |
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| Just back on 17:53 - Jan 24 with 3521 views | Malintabuk |
Great Post.... exactly it... when Morgan scored that last gasp winner it was such an high.. and now we lost a game in the same way .. always gutting
I thought were were good today until we visibly tired in that 2nd half... hate losing... detest losing like that... but sh!t happens... |  | | |
| Just back on 17:54 - Jan 24 with 3508 views | ted_hendrix |
92 minutes gone and we're leading 2-1 at home, seriously you shouldn't be losing that game 3-2.
No excuse for It, none at all. |  |
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| Just back on 17:58 - Jan 24 with 3442 views | BrianMcCarthy |
First half good, second half bad.
We were way too deep in that second half, and didn't press either.
Not sure if that was a tactical decision or down to tiredness again.
But we were asking for trouble, and got trouble. |  |
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| Just back on 18:00 - Jan 24 with 3413 views | ted_hendrix |
| Just back on 17:58 - Jan 24 by BrianMcCarthy |
First half good, second half bad.
We were way too deep in that second half, and didn't press either.
Not sure if that was a tactical decision or down to tiredness again.
But we were asking for trouble, and got trouble. |
That's the bit about playing too deep. | |
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| Just back on 18:03 - Jan 24 with 3364 views | slmrstid |
Fk Disney and fk Hollywood.
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| Just back on 18:11 - Jan 24 with 3267 views | Geoff78 |
Sick as a parrot! Rangers didn't deserve to lose, but they did let Wrexham back into the game in the 2nd half after a dominant first 45 when we should have scored more.
Before Mbengue's red Smyth had been in danger of getting a 2nd yellow - maybe why Stephan took him off, but Stephan could have made some subs earlier as we'd clearly lost control of MF.
We did so well to get back to 2-1 with a beautiful goal from a corner that caught Wrexham sleeping. And then Mbengue tried to kill Thomason (I think) and the red seemed inevitable. What shouldn't have been inevitable was we seemed to panic, lose shape and Wrexham were fired up and possibly lucky with 2 late strikes. | | | |
| Just back on 18:15 - Jan 24 with 3187 views | StreathamRanger |
Also just back. Gutted obviously but here's my thoughts FWIW
- Madsen best player on the pitch again. He's crucial to this team. Went down with a knock at one point and everyone in the ground held their breath until he got himself to his feet. He deserves a song much better than the terrible one he currently has. I think there'll be some interest in him in the summer.
- First 30 minutes were excellent. I'm a big fan of Morgan. He looks to play forward and get the ball into dangerous areas. Doesn't always work but I like his attitude.
- Vale was tidy in the first half. Great goal. Looked tired in the second. Understandable given the lack of games he's had.
- Cook and Dunne are a great CB pair. Both played well today. Hopefully they can stay injury free. RND had another solid game.
- we reacted really badly to the sending off and gave them all the time and space they needed. However, the red card was foolish so Mbengue needs to take responsibility for seriously letting his team mates down. He seems a good egg so I'm sure he would have held his hands up and apologised to the team.
- a few said we should have bought on Edwards after the sending off. Not possible as we'd already had our three substitution windows. With hindsight you can say he should have taken off Mbengue as he was on a yellow but a manager had to be able to trust his players not to get themselves sent off. Again Mbengue has to carry the responsibility on that one.
- having watched the goals back, I think it's unfair to lay the blame on Walsh. They're all very well struck. On another day maybe he saves one of them but I don't think any of them are a big keeper error. I also like the way he looks to distribute the ball quicker than our other keepers.
- it's a shame our next game is against Coventry as we could really have done with an easier opponent to try and bounce back. Not sure what we do at the back. Would be a shame to stop the Cook Dunne partnership so maybe Edwards out tonight back. If he plays well there maybe he takes Mbengue's spot long term.
Wrexham had the stronger bench today and maybe that was just enough to get them three points that they didn't deserve. A point a piece would have been just about right. [Post edited 24 Jan 18:17]
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| Just back on 18:16 - Jan 24 with 3177 views | ted_hendrix |
Parkinson must have thought he'd died and gone to Heaven In the 93rd and 94th minute. | |
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| Just back on 18:17 - Jan 24 with 3163 views | StrawberryHillR |
The ref has absolutely Fredwested us there... Wrexham 12 fouling at every corner and continually hacking at Smyth, no card. Smyth first foul is a card and he has to be subbed to save him from being sent off.
Mbengue, I'm not sure the second yellow was a foul let alone a card, but even if it was, we've got a minimum of 4 minutes added on, and in that time we have a sending off with Mbengue leaving the pitch after an absolute age, followed by two goals, each celebrated like they'd won best actor at the Oscars, with the band striking up to try and get them back so we can restart the game. Whistle blows on 94:47. | | | |
| Just back on 18:17 - Jan 24 with 3138 views | numptydumpty |
Needed to take advantage when on top first half Never happy only being one up.
Second half was a pretty terrible performance. Smyth and Demble were very weak. Vale faded which was understandable but well done him. Surprised when we scored Mbengue still to be on was strange, but even so.
Why not then bring Edwards on Dunne at right back. At least those players know that formation. Brain dead from Stephan. But even so, go down in the challenge, shield the ball etc. Zero effort at sh*thousery in injury time.
A very poor outcome but so avoidable. A depressing end that has the ability to end our season....
I am avoiding this website for the next few days for the benefits of my mental health.
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| Just back on 18:19 - Jan 24 with 3122 views | andrew1302 |
For me after the sending off Field moved into the back four and a hole was left open and that is where both goals came from. Why did Stefan take of one of 2 upfront or move someone to fill that gap. The 3rd goal came as therewas no one there and the guy had the freedom of the park to line up his shot. | | | |
| Just back on 18:25 - Jan 24 with 3032 views | NewYorkRanger |
Also just back. Pretty gutted but I did think we may rue only being one up at half time after dominating so much.
I thought Kone looked out of sorts, especially second half. Body language not great and energy levels seemed to be low. He may benefit from a couple of weeks rest.
Wasn't sure about substitutions either.
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| Just back on 18:28 - Jan 24 with 2972 views | loftboy |
| Just back on 18:25 - Jan 24 by NewYorkRanger |
Also just back. Pretty gutted but I did think we may rue only being one up at half time after dominating so much.
I thought Kone looked out of sorts, especially second half. Body language not great and energy levels seemed to be low. He may benefit from a couple of weeks rest.
Wasn't sure about substitutions either.
Bloody QPR innit |
Yep,we need to be more clinical when dominating, should have been out of sight by half time. |  |
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| Just back on 18:30 - Jan 24 with 2943 views | StreathamRanger |
| Just back on 18:25 - Jan 24 by NewYorkRanger |
Also just back. Pretty gutted but I did think we may rue only being one up at half time after dominating so much.
I thought Kone looked out of sorts, especially second half. Body language not great and energy levels seemed to be low. He may benefit from a couple of weeks rest.
Wasn't sure about substitutions either.
Bloody QPR innit |
Kone looked a bit more comfortable playing further forward. He's as slow as rust but he's at least strong. Not really sure what our other options are at the moment. Has Kolli got the physicality to play up there on his own? I'm not sure. For the time being I think playing 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 is the right thing to do. Unless this new signing is as rapid as Burrell and can form a partnership up top with Kone. We seem to sign new players and not play them though so not sure if we'll see much of him. | | | |
| Just back on 18:31 - Jan 24 with 2923 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Well, just hot home and all I can say is, meh.
First half dominate. Second half lost the CM battle yet again.
Madsen best player on the pitch, yet again.
The failure in the summer to address the CM area has now killed this season. That's not on JS, that's on those above him.
See out the season now. Sigh. | |
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| Just back on 18:33 - Jan 24 with 2910 views | ManinBlack |
If you are not fit then the team will look tired the longer the game goes on for. If the manager and players know they are going to wilt then it is imperative we take the opportunities in the first half. We should have been three up at half time but a tired team will start sitting back as the game wears on when only leading by a goal. If we had done our homework we would have known Wrexham score a number of stoppage time goals so we should have played more sensibly in the dying embers.
The frustration I have with us is that when the opponents go down to 10 men we can't score against them even when we have an hour still to play. All we had to do was see out 5 minutes but we ship two just 60 seconds apart. We can make excuses about tiredness but why do other clubs cope better? Wrexham won all four games between Christmas and the New Year. Today Middlesbrough blew Preston away 4-0, this after winning at West Brom and Stoke in the past week. Why are they not tired and sitting back at home like us? We have mentally weak players who are unfit and it never changes over the seasons. Until someone at the club shakes us out of this apathy and changes the dynamics we will still be in this same place in twenty years time.
Perhaps people have forgotten past nightmares but we have been here before. The famous City game 2-1 up on 90 minutes only to lose after 95 minutes. Or how about Hull? One up after 90 minutes only to lose two goals in stoppage time. The only difference today is that we were at home. [Post edited 24 Jan 18:36]
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| Just back on 18:35 - Jan 24 with 2860 views | Damo1962 |
| Just back on 18:28 - Jan 24 by loftboy |
Yep,we need to be more clinical when dominating, should have been out of sight by half time. |
We aren't good enough(bar a very few exceptions) - to be far enough ahead of teams that inevitably come back at us. It is a combination of ability and mental toughness, that seems to be the way for seasons now. This was the game I wanted us to win more than any other...and they ruined it for me. Think 16 th is the best we can hope for...again. | | | |
| Just back on 18:38 - Jan 24 with 2823 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Just back on 18:25 - Jan 24 by NewYorkRanger |
Also just back. Pretty gutted but I did think we may rue only being one up at half time after dominating so much.
I thought Kone looked out of sorts, especially second half. Body language not great and energy levels seemed to be low. He may benefit from a couple of weeks rest.
Wasn't sure about substitutions either.
Bloody QPR innit |
Good post really love/respect these just back threads.
I thought Kone was so poor today and looked to be partly at fault for the winner plus he went screaming after the ref when the equalized so either he or the keeper was fouled (bad punch though)
Bennie hacked that clearence straight to them for the winner should have been over the stand roof there .
We should have NEVER lost this game ,do what you have to save the point after they equalize we did the opposite.
The ref was a joke to us on TV anyway he only punished us they got away with so much his Hollywood moment I guess0
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| Just back on 18:42 - Jan 24 with 2760 views | StreathamRanger |
| Just back on 18:33 - Jan 24 by ManinBlack |
If you are not fit then the team will look tired the longer the game goes on for. If the manager and players know they are going to wilt then it is imperative we take the opportunities in the first half. We should have been three up at half time but a tired team will start sitting back as the game wears on when only leading by a goal. If we had done our homework we would have known Wrexham score a number of stoppage time goals so we should have played more sensibly in the dying embers.
The frustration I have with us is that when the opponents go down to 10 men we can't score against them even when we have an hour still to play. All we had to do was see out 5 minutes but we ship two just 60 seconds apart. We can make excuses about tiredness but why do other clubs cope better? Wrexham won all four games between Christmas and the New Year. Today Middlesbrough blew Preston away 4-0, this after winning at West Brom and Stoke in the past week. Why are they not tired and sitting back at home like us? We have mentally weak players who are unfit and it never changes over the seasons. Until someone at the club shakes us out of this apathy and changes the dynamics we will still be in this same place in twenty years time.
Perhaps people have forgotten past nightmares but we have been here before. The famous City game 2-1 up on 90 minutes only to lose after 95 minutes. Or how about Hull? One up after 90 minutes only to lose two goals in stoppage time. The only difference today is that we were at home. [Post edited 24 Jan 18:36]
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Maybe the players are mentally weak or maybe we just have a lot of young players without the experience to always make the right decisions. I think Clive said it in his preview that managers don't really like young players. They'd generally prefer a 30 year old with 200+ games under their belt as they make fewer mistakes. By my reckoning, we had Kolli, Bennie, Morgan, Mbengue, Dembele, Vale, Kone all under 24 years old and with probably less than 200 games between them (certainly at championship level). Wrexham have been able to sign older pros on big wages who have little to no sell on potential but are capable of bullying their way to a win against a less experienced side. [Post edited 24 Jan 18:46]
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| Just back on 18:44 - Jan 24 with 2737 views | Paddyhoops |
Blowing out our arses on the hour yet again . Shame as it was a great first half .
Walsh got nothing on that corner for their second and sadly we just backed off for that winner and he had a free strike albeit a good one.
On the cusp of play offs on ninety minutes to now looking down the barrel of the leaders next week.
Grim .
Lots of plusses though . Madsen was head and shoulders above everyone in that first half and is turning into some player. | | | |
| Just back on 18:49 - Jan 24 with 2662 views | SteveB |
| Just back on 18:44 - Jan 24 by Paddyhoops |
Blowing out our arses on the hour yet again . Shame as it was a great first half .
Walsh got nothing on that corner for their second and sadly we just backed off for that winner and he had a free strike albeit a good one.
On the cusp of play offs on ninety minutes to now looking down the barrel of the leaders next week.
Grim .
Lots of plusses though . Madsen was head and shoulders above everyone in that first half and is turning into some player. |
I'm not one of those, pitch fork "sack the Manager" blokes. But can we sack this Manager, I really cannot warm to him. Should be sacked on his woeful substitution management alone... |  | | |
| Just back on 18:50 - Jan 24 with 2662 views | ted_hendrix |
With a win we would have been one place below the play off's however It's Wrexham of all teams who've jumped Into the play off's tonight.
So there you have It. | |
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| Just back on 18:55 - Jan 24 with 2600 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Just back on 18:50 - Jan 24 by ted_hendrix |
With a win we would have been one place below the play off's however It's Wrexham of all teams who've jumped Into the play off's tonight.
So there you have It. |
They did not deserve that win but once we took the lead their Manager went all out and they pulled it off.Took a lot of help from us of course as all mentioned here and other threads.
Wrexham's manager just said this is probably the worst pitch in the division btw not exactly helping our mood | | | |
| Just back on 18:59 - Jan 24 with 2557 views | charmr |
Reminds me of early Holloway football, a culture of fear.
Away games especially never attack and other games drop deep all the fing time shyting ourselves.
Thinking it’s coming from outside the team. [Post edited 24 Jan 19:03]
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| Just back on 19:00 - Jan 24 with 2464 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Just back on 18:44 - Jan 24 by Paddyhoops |
Blowing out our arses on the hour yet again . Shame as it was a great first half .
Walsh got nothing on that corner for their second and sadly we just backed off for that winner and he had a free strike albeit a good one.
On the cusp of play offs on ninety minutes to now looking down the barrel of the leaders next week.
Grim .
Lots of plusses though . Madsen was head and shoulders above everyone in that first half and is turning into some player. |
What are some of the other plusses in your view? |  |
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