| Andy Burnham 09:46 - Jul 20 with 18181 views | SaintNick | Nice guy, everyone says that, but he seems to be called that because he tells people what they want to hear all the time. Can he make big decisions ? But more to the point, here we are an hour before he is going to be Prime minister and we don't actually know what he is going to do when he takes charge, will he continue with the Labour party manifesto that got them elected or will he change course, in which case many say he should go to the polls. If that happens I don't think any of the other parties are in any better condition. We really are in a mess at the moment |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 19:39 - Jul 22 with 3104 views | cocklebreath |
| Andy Burnham on 08:48 - Jul 22 by SaintNick | As I said Mortgage lenders can charge what they want to loan you the money, the BOE base rate is a guidance to them and did affect you if you had a tracker mortgage, they tend to follow the trend in that. But when it comes down to it a mortgage lender sets it's own rate How Mortgage Rates Are Determined The Lender: Your specific bank or building society (such as Halifax or HSBC) decides the exact interest rate on your fixed or variable deal based on their running costs, business goals, profit margins, and risk assessments. The Base Rate: The Bank of England sets the official Bank Rate, which acts as a foundational benchmark for the cost of borrowing in the wider economy. As I also said the low mortgage rate was not sustainable, it had been rising for a couple of years before Truss's debacle. Since Truss lenders have reacted to any issue by putting up their interest rates, the BOE base rate is currently 3.7% which is 1.5% less than it was in mid 2024 when Labour took over, yet mortgage rates have increased not dropped. Lets blame politicians on both sides for things they do, but let's not listen to propaganda from either side telling us false information about their opposition and that "everything" bad that happens is down to the other side. |
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| Andy Burnham on 14:15 - Jul 23 with 2861 views | Southamptonfan | I quite like what Andy Burnham is doing. VAT removed from electricity bills is a good move. Might only be £45 but at least it's something. £2 bus fare cap is good. Now news of business rates for pubs being cut by 20 per cent. Too.many businesses have been closing down. Immediate action on his first days in office to help with the cost of living. This all sounds good to me. [Post edited 23 Jul 14:17]
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| Andy Burnham on 17:47 - Jul 23 with 2800 views | Ifonly |
| Andy Burnham on 14:15 - Jul 23 by Southamptonfan | I quite like what Andy Burnham is doing. VAT removed from electricity bills is a good move. Might only be £45 but at least it's something. £2 bus fare cap is good. Now news of business rates for pubs being cut by 20 per cent. Too.many businesses have been closing down. Immediate action on his first days in office to help with the cost of living. This all sounds good to me. [Post edited 23 Jul 14:17]
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All 3 of those policies are unfunded. It's easy to announce policies to spend other people's money. If he'd made spending cuts to pay for those things, that would be good, but taxing and spending does not make us better off. Growing the economy is what makes us better off. Living standards for the average family in the US are about 30% to 50% higher than ours, depending on the exact measurement. UK living standards are now below even the poorest state in the US, Mississippi. And we'll be even worse off now we have to pay for our own defence. The reason they have a better standard of living is simple, the US has had strong economic growth and we haven't. If you talk to people in the US they understand that too. Most people in the UK haven't got a clue. Starmer at least talked about the need for growth, but didn't deliver. Burnham just talks about taking us back to the policies of the 1970s, when we were an economic basket case and living standards were a hell of a lot lower than they are now. |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 18:25 - Jul 23 with 2778 views | StRipper | Hmmm, since when was Labour party, or any other party for that matter, doing what it published in its manifesto? Not that politicians lying and serving anyone other than the public is a surprise to any of us, I am sure. We know what Burnham will do. Just like whoever is in power working in lock step with the eugenecists - Run up more debt and bankrupt the country by giving money mad initiatives, overseas to NGOs and foreign powers, - raise more taxes on us, - let corporate and council corruption run rampant, - make councils screw with our lives and build all over the countryside - try and get into the minds of kids through schools and tv propaganda, so that they can brainwash them, like the nazis and communists did - continue to roll out facial recognition and other tech that destroys our freedom and privacy - introduce more legislation so that we are all criminals in the eyes of the State - so we can be fined and punished And on and on ad infinitum |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 18:41 - Jul 23 with 2766 views | StRipper | People need to wake up. There is a reason why Government is so bad and getting worse. So that we'll accept the awful dystopian globalist, remote technocratic alternative they've got lined up. What else do people think the data centres, cameras everywhere and digitising of everything is about? Just in the same way that refereeing standards became so bad, that we would accept VAR. Its hardly a new trick, but everyone seems to keep falling for it |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 18:50 - Jul 23 with 2745 views | StRipper |
| Andy Burnham on 17:47 - Jul 23 by Ifonly | All 3 of those policies are unfunded. It's easy to announce policies to spend other people's money. If he'd made spending cuts to pay for those things, that would be good, but taxing and spending does not make us better off. Growing the economy is what makes us better off. Living standards for the average family in the US are about 30% to 50% higher than ours, depending on the exact measurement. UK living standards are now below even the poorest state in the US, Mississippi. And we'll be even worse off now we have to pay for our own defence. The reason they have a better standard of living is simple, the US has had strong economic growth and we haven't. If you talk to people in the US they understand that too. Most people in the UK haven't got a clue. Starmer at least talked about the need for growth, but didn't deliver. Burnham just talks about taking us back to the policies of the 1970s, when we were an economic basket case and living standards were a hell of a lot lower than they are now. |
Unfunded? Hilarious. Why did no one ask how we fund the billions to Ukraine? Or the billions for Covid? Or the billions for "renewable energy" Ort the billions going into CCTV and AI cameras everywhere? And so on. But, my god, any money to reduce costs for the people?!? Herey! "How is it funded", scream the media and those who listen to the media and don't see it for what it is. A narrative engine. More to the point, why only cut Electricity VAT? Why not cut the green tax on fuel? Or inheritance tax? Which would benefit us all and put money back into the economy? |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 21:33 - Jul 23 with 2641 views | Southamptonfan |
| Andy Burnham on 17:47 - Jul 23 by Ifonly | All 3 of those policies are unfunded. It's easy to announce policies to spend other people's money. If he'd made spending cuts to pay for those things, that would be good, but taxing and spending does not make us better off. Growing the economy is what makes us better off. Living standards for the average family in the US are about 30% to 50% higher than ours, depending on the exact measurement. UK living standards are now below even the poorest state in the US, Mississippi. And we'll be even worse off now we have to pay for our own defence. The reason they have a better standard of living is simple, the US has had strong economic growth and we haven't. If you talk to people in the US they understand that too. Most people in the UK haven't got a clue. Starmer at least talked about the need for growth, but didn't deliver. Burnham just talks about taking us back to the policies of the 1970s, when we were an economic basket case and living standards were a hell of a lot lower than they are now. |
America and Trump continue to ensure that fuel and oil is rising by the day because of an unwinnable war that is completely pointless. There is also horrendous homelessness in many US cities and many can't afford medical care. I wouldn't ever want to lose our NHS. |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 21:48 - Jul 23 with 2627 views | kingolaf | He needs to reduce welfare, illegal immigration and look at our foreign aid budget. He needs to drill the North Sea and trouser the tax he’ll get for it. These moves alone will please the bond market and reduce our borrowing costs. Then he can whack in some incentives for businesses and grow the private sector. I’m not against nationalising water. The private sector have basically raped the country. He won’t do this though as he has too many left-wingers who believe in magic money trees and paying the lazy and workshy to stay at home. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Andy Burnham on 21:56 - Jul 23 with 2614 views | kingolaf |
| Andy Burnham on 14:15 - Jul 21 by SaintNick | The economy did crash under Truss, but she was soon gone and it recovered quite quickly in a matter of weeks, so it didn't have the longer term effect that some would have you believe. |
Didn’t it cost the Bank of England £47billion to prop up the bond market following her disastrous budget? That pain doesn’t go away after a few weeks. |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 09:38 - Jul 24 with 2434 views | saintmark1976 |
| Andy Burnham on 18:50 - Jul 23 by StRipper | Unfunded? Hilarious. Why did no one ask how we fund the billions to Ukraine? Or the billions for Covid? Or the billions for "renewable energy" Ort the billions going into CCTV and AI cameras everywhere? And so on. But, my god, any money to reduce costs for the people?!? Herey! "How is it funded", scream the media and those who listen to the media and don't see it for what it is. A narrative engine. More to the point, why only cut Electricity VAT? Why not cut the green tax on fuel? Or inheritance tax? Which would benefit us all and put money back into the economy? |
Spot on StRipper. Strange how Covid ended. Not on medical grounds but when those who buy bonds started to refuse to further contribute to the already £400 billion of “ unfunded” spending by Boris Johnson’s administration. Burnham attempts to at least make a small effort to help the population and lo and behold the right wing media are up in arms about the very minor adjustments to total government spending. As for Ifonly and his persistent love in with all things America. They have the biggest debt in the world and one of the most unbalanced societies with an enormous gap between the richest and poorest. Not forgetting of course that their population have been illiterate enough to elect Trump not once but twice. Not a place I would wish to live but each to their own I suppose. |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 10:29 - Jul 24 with 2386 views | Ifonly |
| Andy Burnham on 09:38 - Jul 24 by saintmark1976 | Spot on StRipper. Strange how Covid ended. Not on medical grounds but when those who buy bonds started to refuse to further contribute to the already £400 billion of “ unfunded” spending by Boris Johnson’s administration. Burnham attempts to at least make a small effort to help the population and lo and behold the right wing media are up in arms about the very minor adjustments to total government spending. As for Ifonly and his persistent love in with all things America. They have the biggest debt in the world and one of the most unbalanced societies with an enormous gap between the richest and poorest. Not forgetting of course that their population have been illiterate enough to elect Trump not once but twice. Not a place I would wish to live but each to their own I suppose. |
Ah saintmark who likes to twist what I say. If you'd actually read what I said recently you'd have seen I was highly critical of the corrupt Trump regime and the way they perverted the world cup. But no, for saintmark, he declares I have a "persistent love in with all things America". As usual, he's wrong. I have lived in the US and chose to live here. But I make no apology for admiring the US economy and the way that gives the average family a 30% to 50% higher living standard than here. It takes a real fool to not want to learn something from how they've achieved that. |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 10:38 - Jul 24 with 2361 views | Ifonly |
| Andy Burnham on 21:56 - Jul 23 by kingolaf | Didn’t it cost the Bank of England £47billion to prop up the bond market following her disastrous budget? That pain doesn’t go away after a few weeks. |
Those actions don't cost the BOE anything. The problem was that selling of government bonds caused more selling by pension funds. The BOE stopped by that by buying those bonds. It does that by giving banks "reserves" at their accounts at the BOE in exchange for the bonds. Those reserves cost the BOE nothing, so buying the bonds cost nothing. The pain was caused by the spike in interest rates and the drop in the pound, not the cost of buying bonds. |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 12:32 - Jul 24 with 2297 views | saintmark1976 |
| Andy Burnham on 10:29 - Jul 24 by Ifonly | Ah saintmark who likes to twist what I say. If you'd actually read what I said recently you'd have seen I was highly critical of the corrupt Trump regime and the way they perverted the world cup. But no, for saintmark, he declares I have a "persistent love in with all things America". As usual, he's wrong. I have lived in the US and chose to live here. But I make no apology for admiring the US economy and the way that gives the average family a 30% to 50% higher living standard than here. It takes a real fool to not want to learn something from how they've achieved that. |
Oh dear Ifony, I appear to have touched a nerve, resulting in your response of what appears to be a classic case of playing the man rather than the ball when challenged. Never mind, I expect you will get over it and in the meantime I’m happy to let others form their own conclusions about the topic under discussion and wether I’ve twisted your contribution. Enjoy the rest of your day. |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 12:58 - Jul 24 with 2273 views | franniesTache |
| Andy Burnham on 10:29 - Jul 24 by Ifonly | Ah saintmark who likes to twist what I say. If you'd actually read what I said recently you'd have seen I was highly critical of the corrupt Trump regime and the way they perverted the world cup. But no, for saintmark, he declares I have a "persistent love in with all things America". As usual, he's wrong. I have lived in the US and chose to live here. But I make no apology for admiring the US economy and the way that gives the average family a 30% to 50% higher living standard than here. It takes a real fool to not want to learn something from how they've achieved that. |
A bigger pay check doesn't equal a better standard of living. In the US life expectancy is shorter than the UK, in the US bankrupcy rates are higher than the UK, in the US the murder rate is higher than the UK, in the US, homelessness is higher in the us, suicide rates are higher in the US, job insecurity is higher in the US, days of holiday are lower in the US, wealth disparity is far higher in the US, food regulation and quality control is worse in the US, drug addiction rates are higher in the US... In fact unless you are rich the US is evidently a worse place to live for standard of living than the UK (and that's before you even begin to compare it to europe) |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 13:37 - Jul 24 with 2252 views | Jellybaby |
| Andy Burnham on 18:41 - Jul 23 by StRipper | People need to wake up. There is a reason why Government is so bad and getting worse. So that we'll accept the awful dystopian globalist, remote technocratic alternative they've got lined up. What else do people think the data centres, cameras everywhere and digitising of everything is about? Just in the same way that refereeing standards became so bad, that we would accept VAR. Its hardly a new trick, but everyone seems to keep falling for it |
Most people would rather talk about the latest incumbent at Number 10 that has had more guests in the last ten years than a popular Airbnb in Devon than accept that the political situation is theatre. We have actual actors, comedians, reality stars and old men with dementia supposedly running countries and making massive decisions. This is the controlled demolition of the so called democratic system. Luckily for them, unluckily for us, they have their new system in place ready to go, but it's fine, we won't notice, as we are talking about the height of Andy Burnham, the dress his wife wore and Binny McBinface's chances at the next joke by-election. |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 14:00 - Jul 24 with 2237 views | Ifonly |
| Andy Burnham on 12:58 - Jul 24 by franniesTache | A bigger pay check doesn't equal a better standard of living. In the US life expectancy is shorter than the UK, in the US bankrupcy rates are higher than the UK, in the US the murder rate is higher than the UK, in the US, homelessness is higher in the us, suicide rates are higher in the US, job insecurity is higher in the US, days of holiday are lower in the US, wealth disparity is far higher in the US, food regulation and quality control is worse in the US, drug addiction rates are higher in the US... In fact unless you are rich the US is evidently a worse place to live for standard of living than the UK (and that's before you even begin to compare it to europe) |
As I said above, my comment relates to the economy and how their system has resulted in significantly higher standard of living (using the internationally accepted meaning of that term e.g. by the UN). There are many things that the UK could learn from that system to make us better off. That doesn't mean everything in the US is great. I think they could improve lives by changing gun laws, food standards, driving regulations and many other things which would have no impact on the economy but would increase life expectancy etc. There's no reason we couldn't combine our gun laws etc. with some of their economic policy. But even with those problems in the US (and using your meaning of the term) there's no evidence to say that "the US is evidently a worse place to live for standard of living than the UK". The nearest we can get to what you're talking about is called reported life satisfaction. The figures for that are still better for the US than the UK, even with the levels of violence and insecurity in their country. |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 20:17 - Jul 24 with 2102 views | Heisenberg |
| Andy Burnham on 14:00 - Jul 24 by Ifonly | As I said above, my comment relates to the economy and how their system has resulted in significantly higher standard of living (using the internationally accepted meaning of that term e.g. by the UN). There are many things that the UK could learn from that system to make us better off. That doesn't mean everything in the US is great. I think they could improve lives by changing gun laws, food standards, driving regulations and many other things which would have no impact on the economy but would increase life expectancy etc. There's no reason we couldn't combine our gun laws etc. with some of their economic policy. But even with those problems in the US (and using your meaning of the term) there's no evidence to say that "the US is evidently a worse place to live for standard of living than the UK". The nearest we can get to what you're talking about is called reported life satisfaction. The figures for that are still better for the US than the UK, even with the levels of violence and insecurity in their country. |
But at the end of the day they elected Trump as its President. This the rest of the world will never remotely understand. It will forever be a stain on the US. |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 12:44 - Jul 25 with 1933 views | Ifonly |
| Andy Burnham on 20:17 - Jul 24 by Heisenberg | But at the end of the day they elected Trump as its President. This the rest of the world will never remotely understand. It will forever be a stain on the US. |
Sure, but Trump makes no difference to what we can learn form their economic system. Their system was working long before Trump came along and it will be working long after he's gone. |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 14:00 - Jul 28 with 1486 views | Southamptonfan | Excellent idea from Andy Burnham to shake up education - about time. The number of bored 14 to 16 year olds, forced to do exams and academic study against their will, preventing them from doing something vocational and active like plumbing, building, electrics, hairdresding etc is a flawed system. Some.kids don't want to be doing maths, English, science all day. That's when you get the bad behaviour and then kids going down the wrong path. They get to 17, 18 years old not knowing what to do and end up.unemployed. Give them a pathway, guidance and a skill to continue with when they leave school. This is a great idea IMO. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 15:07 - Jul 28 with 1421 views | dixiefrog |
| Andy Burnham on 14:00 - Jul 28 by Southamptonfan | Excellent idea from Andy Burnham to shake up education - about time. The number of bored 14 to 16 year olds, forced to do exams and academic study against their will, preventing them from doing something vocational and active like plumbing, building, electrics, hairdresding etc is a flawed system. Some.kids don't want to be doing maths, English, science all day. That's when you get the bad behaviour and then kids going down the wrong path. They get to 17, 18 years old not knowing what to do and end up.unemployed. Give them a pathway, guidance and a skill to continue with when they leave school. This is a great idea IMO. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art |
I agree with much of what you say, however it’s not all the kids fault, much of the blame for our present position lays squarely with the government and employers. I worked my entire life within the construction industry and as such it was dominated by kids with manual skills learned through perseverance, dogged determination and a fair dollop of natural skill. For the last twenty years my company and no doubt many others adopted a policy of only employing young people with a degree, now I don’t know many brickies, plumbers or carpenters who have a uni degree in anything. As a result the construction industry ended up not employing youngsters, but over-educated people from abroad who couldn’t get a job in their chosen field so chose to retrain at there local college in brickying, plumbing, carpentry etc. Therefore filling the requirement of someone degree educated but with a manual skill. Giving youngsters new and valuable skills is laudable, but it’s useless unless employers are retrained to accept the kids coming out of college with either an NVQ or it’s current or future equivalent. |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 15:47 - Jul 28 with 1391 views | Southamptonfan |
| Andy Burnham on 15:07 - Jul 28 by dixiefrog | I agree with much of what you say, however it’s not all the kids fault, much of the blame for our present position lays squarely with the government and employers. I worked my entire life within the construction industry and as such it was dominated by kids with manual skills learned through perseverance, dogged determination and a fair dollop of natural skill. For the last twenty years my company and no doubt many others adopted a policy of only employing young people with a degree, now I don’t know many brickies, plumbers or carpenters who have a uni degree in anything. As a result the construction industry ended up not employing youngsters, but over-educated people from abroad who couldn’t get a job in their chosen field so chose to retrain at there local college in brickying, plumbing, carpentry etc. Therefore filling the requirement of someone degree educated but with a manual skill. Giving youngsters new and valuable skills is laudable, but it’s useless unless employers are retrained to accept the kids coming out of college with either an NVQ or it’s current or future equivalent. |
I agree that it's not all the kids fault. The education system is fundamentally flawed in that schools are judged purely on results in maths, English, science and so on. Kids are pressurised to achieve top results academically, got to university, when the truth is that not all kids (and people) are academically minded. These kids feel like failures when they don't achieve, but not everybody is academic. So many kids are talented in non academic fields, but are wasted and just lose confidence when they don't work and don't have any skills to use and fail their exams or even those who don't fail.their exams but then don't know what to do. Companies can be incentivised to take on young people in future, and I think this is a wonderful idea, potentially lowering unemployment, lowering mental.health issues amongst young people, lowering truancy, and giving us more skilled workers. I am impressed with Burnham's ideas, but ofcourse let's see if it all happpens. [Post edited 28 Jul 15:49]
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| Andy Burnham on 18:31 - Jul 28 with 1297 views | solent_toffee |
| Andy Burnham on 15:07 - Jul 28 by dixiefrog | I agree with much of what you say, however it’s not all the kids fault, much of the blame for our present position lays squarely with the government and employers. I worked my entire life within the construction industry and as such it was dominated by kids with manual skills learned through perseverance, dogged determination and a fair dollop of natural skill. For the last twenty years my company and no doubt many others adopted a policy of only employing young people with a degree, now I don’t know many brickies, plumbers or carpenters who have a uni degree in anything. As a result the construction industry ended up not employing youngsters, but over-educated people from abroad who couldn’t get a job in their chosen field so chose to retrain at there local college in brickying, plumbing, carpentry etc. Therefore filling the requirement of someone degree educated but with a manual skill. Giving youngsters new and valuable skills is laudable, but it’s useless unless employers are retrained to accept the kids coming out of college with either an NVQ or it’s current or future equivalent. |
The amount of NEET’s we now have in this country is staggering. There has to be a cross party agreement on it, otherwise generations of people are going to be screwed. I’ve been working in government employability contracts for the past few years. The low aspiration of so many people, happy to stay on benefits, getting sick notes from their GP when there is very little wrong with them is also massively worrying. Any government in the past who have tried to challenge this has been called out by the opposition party (from both major parties) and we now have a situation where families just don’t work, therefore they spend and don’t contribute to taxes/NI etc but do access health services (often on a regular basis). The government shouldn’t have to continuously intervene in people’s lives but they do now need a different approach to increase opportunities and support for younger people to success and support themselves. |  | |  |
| Andy Burnham on 09:08 - Jul 29 with 1080 views | SaintNick |
| Andy Burnham on 18:31 - Jul 28 by solent_toffee | The amount of NEET’s we now have in this country is staggering. There has to be a cross party agreement on it, otherwise generations of people are going to be screwed. I’ve been working in government employability contracts for the past few years. The low aspiration of so many people, happy to stay on benefits, getting sick notes from their GP when there is very little wrong with them is also massively worrying. Any government in the past who have tried to challenge this has been called out by the opposition party (from both major parties) and we now have a situation where families just don’t work, therefore they spend and don’t contribute to taxes/NI etc but do access health services (often on a regular basis). The government shouldn’t have to continuously intervene in people’s lives but they do now need a different approach to increase opportunities and support for younger people to success and support themselves. |
The problem is that when whoever is in government tries to do something, they never get it done because the opposition protest so much and it goes through court hearings etc, nothing gets done Cue a change of government and the new set try to implement something similr to the old lot who then suddenly thing this is the worst thing in the world and protest etc etc. Hence we are now in continual limbo. As a nation we have 60 years of youth culture coming to roost, your 80 year old pensioner is no longer a quaint OAP, but a n ex 60's skinhead or hippy who grew up anti establishment and brought up children in the same way to have no respect for society or anyone else for that matter |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 10:33 - Jul 29 with 1026 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
| Andy Burnham on 12:58 - Jul 24 by franniesTache | A bigger pay check doesn't equal a better standard of living. In the US life expectancy is shorter than the UK, in the US bankrupcy rates are higher than the UK, in the US the murder rate is higher than the UK, in the US, homelessness is higher in the us, suicide rates are higher in the US, job insecurity is higher in the US, days of holiday are lower in the US, wealth disparity is far higher in the US, food regulation and quality control is worse in the US, drug addiction rates are higher in the US... In fact unless you are rich the US is evidently a worse place to live for standard of living than the UK (and that's before you even begin to compare it to europe) |
Absolutely spot on. I could move to the US with work and my salary would double, but, yes, everything you've listed. No thanks. (Side note: I don't care what colour party are in power here from blue, red or yellow - they are all infinitely better than the dross in other countries, notably the US) |  |
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| Andy Burnham on 11:12 - Jul 29 with 1006 views | franniesTache |
| Andy Burnham on 10:33 - Jul 29 by Gennaro_Contaldo | Absolutely spot on. I could move to the US with work and my salary would double, but, yes, everything you've listed. No thanks. (Side note: I don't care what colour party are in power here from blue, red or yellow - they are all infinitely better than the dross in other countries, notably the US) |
We tend to have a habit of doing this country down generally but i still maintain it's one of the better places to live in the world. In fact i'd make a strong case that "old europe" in general is easily the best region to live in for quality of life (maybe Canada/Australia/Japan/South Korea are the only challengers to that). |  | |  |
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