| brighton 08:14 - Mar 5 with 1955 views | saint22 |
Really look a good side
Amazing what some stability, good investment and upper end mgmt can do in the long run
and Dunk still there leading from the back, shame we never signed him few seasons ago |  | | |  |
| brighton on 09:10 - Mar 5 with 1877 views | Butty101 |
It’s amazing that they have had 5 players taken by bigger clubs and they seem to be progressing.
Just shows you don’t need to buy teenagers to make money |  |
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| brighton on 09:50 - Mar 5 with 1842 views | sledger |
there treading exactly the same path as we did,players being picked off and then when over a couple of years youre recruitment fails you fall away and yes youre right they are a super side at the moment | | | |
| brighton on 10:37 - Mar 5 with 1780 views | Ron11 |
| brighton on 09:10 - Mar 5 by Butty101 |
It’s amazing that they have had 5 players taken by bigger clubs and they seem to be progressing.
Just shows you don’t need to buy teenagers to make money |
Yes.
Everybody groaned when Walcott started yesterday (including me) but he did show some of the experience he's got and put in a reasonable shift including talking to the younger players. | | | |
| brighton on 10:39 - Mar 5 with 1776 views | SaintNick |
| brighton on 09:50 - Mar 5 by sledger |
there treading exactly the same path as we did,players being picked off and then when over a couple of years youre recruitment fails you fall away and yes youre right they are a super side at the moment |
It is about perception, their fans arent happy about seeing their best players going, but they havent turned on their club and spent their time accusing them of being a selling club and lining their own pockets.
They are looking at the bigger picture, look back to the summers of 2014/15/16 and there was constant slagging off of Southampton FC by the usual subjects on social media. |  |
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| brighton on 11:04 - Mar 5 with 1754 views | PatfromPoole |
| brighton on 10:39 - Mar 5 by SaintNick |
It is about perception, their fans arent happy about seeing their best players going, but they havent turned on their club and spent their time accusing them of being a selling club and lining their own pockets.
They are looking at the bigger picture, look back to the summers of 2014/15/16 and there was constant slagging off of Southampton FC by the usual subjects on social media. |
Well, their club was run by people on the take in the late 90’s and early 00’s when they sold their ground.
I was sat on a train in Charleroi in June 2000 after England v Germany when David Bellotti and his daughter had to leave the train for their own safety when a group of Brighton fans got on the train and recognised him.
That would focus minds about the way their club is currently run.
Are you a regular on the Brighton message boards, Nick? |  |
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| brighton on 11:34 - Mar 5 with 1717 views | SaintNick |
| brighton on 11:04 - Mar 5 by PatfromPoole |
Well, their club was run by people on the take in the late 90’s and early 00’s when they sold their ground.
I was sat on a train in Charleroi in June 2000 after England v Germany when David Bellotti and his daughter had to leave the train for their own safety when a group of Brighton fans got on the train and recognised him.
That would focus minds about the way their club is currently run.
Are you a regular on the Brighton message boards, Nick? |
I know a few Brighton fans and I know what they think, it is not about how the club is run, they are realistic about what they can achieve and how it can be achieved, they dont think they have a god given right to be in the Premier League and they realise that they cant compete by splashing cash, they have to sell to generate income and keep repeating that.
Our problem is that a large chunk of our fan base never grasped that back in 2014 and have continued to rant about it since. | |
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| brighton on 11:51 - Mar 5 with 1704 views | Southamptonfan |
| brighton on 11:34 - Mar 5 by SaintNick |
I know a few Brighton fans and I know what they think, it is not about how the club is run, they are realistic about what they can achieve and how it can be achieved, they dont think they have a god given right to be in the Premier League and they realise that they cant compete by splashing cash, they have to sell to generate income and keep repeating that.
Our problem is that a large chunk of our fan base never grasped that back in 2014 and have continued to rant about it since. |
Be fair though Nick, the Saints fans have had a hard time of it, many embarrassing defeats over the last few years and many relegation battles. Brighton have had a decent time over the last few years, making it easier to be more positive. We don't know how they would react if they lost nine nil, and / or got beat by Grimsby and / or were in constant relegation battles.
Leicester fans yesterday, were calling for Rogers head and we're booing their team. They were silent and gave terrible support. This is a team who have recently won the cup and league. [Post edited 5 Mar 2023 11:52]
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| brighton on 11:52 - Mar 5 with 1701 views | Butty101 |
| brighton on 11:34 - Mar 5 by SaintNick |
I know a few Brighton fans and I know what they think, it is not about how the club is run, they are realistic about what they can achieve and how it can be achieved, they dont think they have a god given right to be in the Premier League and they realise that they cant compete by splashing cash, they have to sell to generate income and keep repeating that.
Our problem is that a large chunk of our fan base never grasped that back in 2014 and have continued to rant about it since. |
But Brighton fans last season were up in arms and moaning so that’s just not true. Some even wanted Potter out because of slack of home wins.
Ironically Brighton have a similatr model to us back in 2014/15 buy good players with experience and selling them on. Our scouting has been appalling for a while. Hence we have declined | |
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| brighton on 12:54 - Mar 5 with 1651 views | kingslandstand1 |
| brighton on 11:52 - Mar 5 by Butty101 |
But Brighton fans last season were up in arms and moaning so that’s just not true. Some even wanted Potter out because of slack of home wins.
Ironically Brighton have a similatr model to us back in 2014/15 buy good players with experience and selling them on. Our scouting has been appalling for a while. Hence we have declined |
Let Brighton have their moment in the sun as we did back in the 2016 ish years. Fair play to them (riles me to say that) but sooner or later they will also get some duff ones and they will have to accept as we have to that we will not be a regular top 6-8 team and they will go back on the slide
Well let's hope so but they're current ownership seem to be getting it right |  | | |
| brighton on 13:16 - Mar 5 with 1634 views | UmPahars |
| brighton on 12:54 - Mar 5 by kingslandstand1 |
Let Brighton have their moment in the sun as we did back in the 2016 ish years. Fair play to them (riles me to say that) but sooner or later they will also get some duff ones and they will have to accept as we have to that we will not be a regular top 6-8 team and they will go back on the slide
Well let's hope so but they're current ownership seem to be getting it right |
We had a period where we managed to replace players who were always going to leave us, BUT we managed to pull off some great replacements.
Lallana, Lambert, Lovren, chambers, Shaw replaced by Tadić, Mané, Bertrand, Alderwiereld, Pellè etc.
This continued for a bit with the likes of Van Djick,Soares etc but then eventually we weee found out. Most clubs of our “status” will always suffer from this. A couple of seasons to punch above our weight, before the meritocracy returns to normal. Just think we’ve wasted a bit of this legacy in recent years and have been dragged in to unnecessary relegation battles (the appointment of Jones’s being such a huge self inflicted wound). | | | |
| brighton on 13:21 - Mar 5 with 1627 views | Heisenberg |
| brighton on 10:39 - Mar 5 by SaintNick |
It is about perception, their fans arent happy about seeing their best players going, but they havent turned on their club and spent their time accusing them of being a selling club and lining their own pockets.
They are looking at the bigger picture, look back to the summers of 2014/15/16 and there was constant slagging off of Southampton FC by the usual subjects on social media. |
The reality is they are flying and we are nailed on to go down. Saints failure is placing too much emphasis on the model of buying young then selling on. Nothing wrong with that but you need experience on the pitch to help the youngsters develop. Brighton have players who have been round the block. You need balance across the squad. Our squad lacks experience and know how. |  |
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| brighton on 19:06 - Mar 5 with 1509 views | sledger |
| brighton on 13:21 - Mar 5 by Heisenberg |
The reality is they are flying and we are nailed on to go down. Saints failure is placing too much emphasis on the model of buying young then selling on. Nothing wrong with that but you need experience on the pitch to help the youngsters develop. Brighton have players who have been round the block. You need balance across the squad. Our squad lacks experience and know how. |
they will be raped of there better players in the summer so there recruitment will have to be at the top of there game | | | |
| brighton on 19:29 - Mar 5 with 1506 views | SFC_Referee |
| brighton on 09:50 - Mar 5 by sledger |
there treading exactly the same path as we did,players being picked off and then when over a couple of years youre recruitment fails you fall away and yes youre right they are a super side at the moment |
Exactly, as it happened to us after Koeman left with the Paul one being the one where we transitioned between being a European battling team to a relegation fighting one.
Same happened to Leicester a few years back, and yet again last season. Same has happened to Everton from how well they were doing when we first came back up, with it all just falling to pieces to a point where they’re now a team that’s always in contention to go down, and it’s also the exact same for West Ham with their big fall being this season.
And you could probably even chuck in Wolves for how they’ve been (although they weren’t up their for as long/didn’t finish as high as the others did) and how poor they’ve been this season.
So simply over the last decade or so, that’s a perfect example of 5 teams which all thought the exact same when on the run, but all ended up the exact same, and I’m sure that within the next season or so we’ll be throwing Brighton in that last as well.
As any team outside the “top 6” and now Newcastle with their new billionaire investments, it’s all the same for. They get in a few top quality players, they play well for them, finish high/win some stuff, those top players leave for the “top 6”, they sign replacements for less money, and those replacements are ether just as good, starting the loop again, or are rubbish and they have a major fall.
As the only things that vary is how long they have keep that run of singing the great players for, and what they achieve over that period they do soo well in.
As unfortunately until the footballing world changes with how it is around the money, it’s always gonna be like that, where unless you get some billionaire owner, you’ll have a good few years followed by some abysmal ones. |  |
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