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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it 15:02 - May 2 with 4941 viewsSouthamptonfan

I am confident we beat Boro over 2 legs with the 2nd leg at home. I am pretty sure Millwall beat Hull. Will Millwall ruin the day on and off the pitch?

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:17 - May 2 with 4780 viewsBridders2

Nothing is a given.

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:37 - May 2 with 4747 viewsdirk_doone

It would have been if they'd been playing Wrexham, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull.

That's why I was happy that Middlesbrough got a draw.

Copied and pasted my post from the matchday thread:

"Perfect results for Saints today. I didn't want Wrexham to win because Millwall would have beaten them easily, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull, and I'd rather we avoided Millwall at Wembley. Boro drawing puts us up into that crucial 4th place. 4 of the last 6 play-offs have been won by the 4th placed team."
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:44 - May 2 with 4719 views1885_SFC

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:17 - May 2 by Bridders2

Nothing is a given.


Especially in this division.

Old Skool is Kool

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:46 - May 2 with 4713 viewsgrumpy

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:37 - May 2 by dirk_doone

It would have been if they'd been playing Wrexham, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull.

That's why I was happy that Middlesbrough got a draw.

Copied and pasted my post from the matchday thread:

"Perfect results for Saints today. I didn't want Wrexham to win because Millwall would have beaten them easily, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull, and I'd rather we avoided Millwall at Wembley. Boro drawing puts us up into that crucial 4th place. 4 of the last 6 play-offs have been won by the 4th placed team."
[Post edited 2 May 16:41]


Stats mean nothing Dirk with Saints and Playoffs.
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 17:21 - May 2 with 4648 viewsSouthamptonfan

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:37 - May 2 by dirk_doone

It would have been if they'd been playing Wrexham, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull.

That's why I was happy that Middlesbrough got a draw.

Copied and pasted my post from the matchday thread:

"Perfect results for Saints today. I didn't want Wrexham to win because Millwall would have beaten them easily, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull, and I'd rather we avoided Millwall at Wembley. Boro drawing puts us up into that crucial 4th place. 4 of the last 6 play-offs have been won by the 4th placed team."
[Post edited 2 May 16:41]


But with the 2nd leg being at the Den, and the all the objects and missles thrown at the Hull players in that final leg, I would bet Millwall get through, plus statistically 3rd gets to Wembley something like 80 per cent of the time. How many people would be put off going if it is Millwall, i.e. families, women and kids?

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 17:37 - May 2 with 4617 viewsdirk_doone

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 17:21 - May 2 by Southamptonfan

But with the 2nd leg being at the Den, and the all the objects and missles thrown at the Hull players in that final leg, I would bet Millwall get through, plus statistically 3rd gets to Wembley something like 80 per cent of the time. How many people would be put off going if it is Millwall, i.e. families, women and kids?


Hull beat Millwall 3-1 at the Den this season.

Anyway, in terms of winning at Wembley, in the last decade the 4th placed team has won 50%, and the 3rd placed team 30%. But, you're right, the 6th placed teams have a terrible record.

EFL Championship play-off winners

2025 Sunderland 4th
2024 Southampton 4th
2023 Luton 3rd
2022 Nott Forest 4th
2021 Brentford 3rd
2020 Fulham 4th
2019 Aston Villa 5th
2018 Fulham 3rd
2017 Huddersfield 5th
2016 Hull 4th
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 17:55 - May 2 with 4579 viewsshotters

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 17:21 - May 2 by Southamptonfan

But with the 2nd leg being at the Den, and the all the objects and missles thrown at the Hull players in that final leg, I would bet Millwall get through, plus statistically 3rd gets to Wembley something like 80 per cent of the time. How many people would be put off going if it is Millwall, i.e. families, women and kids?


You seem rather obsessed with Millwall fans mush
Maybe I've missed something but I wasn't aware of any issues at the new den this season

Fail we may, sail we must

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 18:23 - May 2 with 4548 viewsSouthamptonfan

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 17:55 - May 2 by shotters

You seem rather obsessed with Millwall fans mush
Maybe I've missed something but I wasn't aware of any issues at the new den this season


https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/ne

They were horendous at St Mary's. I witnessed them on Brittainia Road, all red eyed and drugged up. Myself and family were almost hit by glass bottles, women and children too. This was 2024. At the Den, there is so.much protection, huge numbers of police that you are well protected there. But nobody should under estimate what it could be like with 30k Millwall fans, all their big guns out in force, across London on a big day.

Now look at what happened the last time they went out of the play offs at Wembley

https://www.google.com/amp/s/w

This was after a play off defeat, when they rioted.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk

I will go, but just making a suggestion that it probably won't be relaxed like.it was against City. Hopefully they don't make it to Wembley, but I suspect they will.
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 18:57 - May 2 with 4470 viewsshotters

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 18:23 - May 2 by Southamptonfan

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/ne

They were horendous at St Mary's. I witnessed them on Brittainia Road, all red eyed and drugged up. Myself and family were almost hit by glass bottles, women and children too. This was 2024. At the Den, there is so.much protection, huge numbers of police that you are well protected there. But nobody should under estimate what it could be like with 30k Millwall fans, all their big guns out in force, across London on a big day.

Now look at what happened the last time they went out of the play offs at Wembley

https://www.google.com/amp/s/w

This was after a play off defeat, when they rioted.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk

I will go, but just making a suggestion that it probably won't be relaxed like.it was against City. Hopefully they don't make it to Wembley, but I suspect they will.
[Post edited 2 May 18:35]


Blimey
One of those incidents is from 24 years ago, the days of F-Troop are long gone
As ive said a couple of times before, I have a pal who supports 'Wall, sat with him in the home end at theirs a couple of times and never seen any issues

Hopefully we can get past 'Boro and look forward to a final against whoever

Fail we may, sail we must

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 20:35 - May 2 with 4309 viewsTonyfromdk

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 18:57 - May 2 by shotters

Blimey
One of those incidents is from 24 years ago, the days of F-Troop are long gone
As ive said a couple of times before, I have a pal who supports 'Wall, sat with him in the home end at theirs a couple of times and never seen any issues

Hopefully we can get past 'Boro and look forward to a final against whoever


I agree.. Millwall though are the Skates of London.
Most of their fans are complete morons, just like our fishy friends…
F-Troop ….you’re having a laugh..
As I said, I agree. Bring on whoever, let’s get this done..
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 20:46 - May 2 with 4258 viewskingslandstand1

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 17:37 - May 2 by dirk_doone

Hull beat Millwall 3-1 at the Den this season.

Anyway, in terms of winning at Wembley, in the last decade the 4th placed team has won 50%, and the 3rd placed team 30%. But, you're right, the 6th placed teams have a terrible record.

EFL Championship play-off winners

2025 Sunderland 4th
2024 Southampton 4th
2023 Luton 3rd
2022 Nott Forest 4th
2021 Brentford 3rd
2020 Fulham 4th
2019 Aston Villa 5th
2018 Fulham 3rd
2017 Huddersfield 5th
2016 Hull 4th
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Boro beat us 4-0 at their place earlier this season so don't put too much on previous results
Play offs are one offs and could affect players differently.
Our advantage is that we've been to Wembley already this season so confidence will be high

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 20:57 - May 2 with 4230 viewsshotters

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 20:46 - May 2 by kingslandstand1

Boro beat us 4-0 at their place earlier this season so don't put too much on previous results
Play offs are one offs and could affect players differently.
Our advantage is that we've been to Wembley already this season so confidence will be high


That 4-0 defeat was Bazunu's last game for us and we were still persisting with the dreaded 3 centre backs. We defended like a pub team in the second half

Lots of our squad have been in this position two years ago and that experience of managing the pressure could be invaluable

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 21:13 - May 2 with 4196 viewssaint22

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 20:46 - May 2 by kingslandstand1

Boro beat us 4-0 at their place earlier this season so don't put too much on previous results
Play offs are one offs and could affect players differently.
Our advantage is that we've been to Wembley already this season so confidence will be high


Boro won’t be an easy game they are a good well drilled side with some very good players
Our lot will need to be at it for both games which if they are will be enough
We cannot afford any defensive errors like the other night though
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 21:18 - May 2 with 4185 viewsWaylander

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 20:57 - May 2 by shotters

That 4-0 defeat was Bazunu's last game for us and we were still persisting with the dreaded 3 centre backs. We defended like a pub team in the second half

Lots of our squad have been in this position two years ago and that experience of managing the pressure could be invaluable


If I recall accurately we missed a couple of very good chances in the first half and should have been leading at half time.
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 21:28 - May 2 with 4145 viewsshotters

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 21:18 - May 2 by Waylander

If I recall accurately we missed a couple of very good chances in the first half and should have been leading at half time.


That's my recollection of that match too

Amazing what a difference a couple of players in key positions, keeper and centre forward ,can make

At the risk of being too confident and it coming back to bite me on the arris, were a very different side to when we played at the Riverside in January

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:07 - May 3 with 3758 viewsFredTheLeg

Millwall are mostly fine at standard games now but it's definitely different at a big game when loads of non regulars come for a day out.

35k of them at Wembley is in no way comparable to a league meeting. Will definitely be a very different atmosphere around the ground and on trains compared to the City game.
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:25 - May 3 with 3715 viewsSouthamptonfan

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:07 - May 3 by FredTheLeg

Millwall are mostly fine at standard games now but it's definitely different at a big game when loads of non regulars come for a day out.

35k of them at Wembley is in no way comparable to a league meeting. Will definitely be a very different atmosphere around the ground and on trains compared to the City game.


Totally agree. All their "banned" fans will about on a massive day.

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:25 - May 3 with 3712 viewsgrumpy

Please don't assume we will reach the playoff final.
Millwall, Middlesbrough and Hull will all be hard to beat.
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:30 - May 3 with 3694 viewsdirk_doone

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:25 - May 3 by grumpy

Please don't assume we will reach the playoff final.
Millwall, Middlesbrough and Hull will all be hard to beat.


It's just as well we only have to beat one of them to get to the final.

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:43 - May 3 with 3674 viewsTonyfromdk

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:25 - May 3 by grumpy

Please don't assume we will reach the playoff final.
Millwall, Middlesbrough and Hull will all be hard to beat.


Of course they’re all hard to beat.
You can never assume the future. Anything can happen unexpectedly…
To be honest I think we’re on a par with Coventry as the best team in the league.
As a fan you don’t assume, more like hope for the best and the players deliver…
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:49 - May 3 with 3661 viewsTonyfromdk

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 10:30 - May 3 by dirk_doone

It's just as well we only have to beat one of them to get to the final.


Getting to the final doesn’t mean anything, if you lose .
We have to beat two of them to get promoted
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 19:09 - May 5 with 3107 viewseuasabioscummer

Is this a joke ffs.

Get a grip fan man. Boro will be up for alot more than our lot based on history.
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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 00:21 - May 6 with 2952 viewsTimSaint

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 20:57 - May 2 by shotters

That 4-0 defeat was Bazunu's last game for us and we were still persisting with the dreaded 3 centre backs. We defended like a pub team in the second half

Lots of our squad have been in this position two years ago and that experience of managing the pressure could be invaluable


In the 4-0 defeat to Boro, Bazunu faced 5 shots on target. The first 3 were goals, the 4th he parried straight to their striker - who duly made it 4-0.

Seem to recall ArmA and Azaz missing decent first half chances.
THB, Wood and Quashie were our preferred 3 CBs at the time, with Manning and Fellows as wing backs.
Oh how times have changed.

TimSaint

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It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 21:58 - May 11 with 2330 viewsdirk_doone

It's gonna be Saints Millwall final isn't it on 16:37 - May 2 by dirk_doone

It would have been if they'd been playing Wrexham, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull.

That's why I was happy that Middlesbrough got a draw.

Copied and pasted my post from the matchday thread:

"Perfect results for Saints today. I didn't want Wrexham to win because Millwall would have beaten them easily, but Millwall have only won 1 of their last 8 games v Hull, and I'd rather we avoided Millwall at Wembley. Boro drawing puts us up into that crucial 4th place. 4 of the last 6 play-offs have been won by the 4th placed team."
[Post edited 2 May 16:41]


Hull at Wembley. But, first we've got to beat Boro tomorrow.

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