| Brighton Game Matchday Thread 15:06 - Dec 7 with 4409 views | SaintNick |
All ready for you to come in this evening and rant or rave depending on how the game is going |  |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:02 - Dec 7 with 1011 views | A1079 |
Only had 5 live commentary to go by. Vestergaard was heavily praised for an excellent performance. Adams praised for working so hard and being selfless. Did not sound like we were great but better in the 2nd half and Radio 5 commentators all said that it was not a penalty and very harsh but said Ings did well with the long wait.
Still 20 points, upto 5th and half way to PL safety. |  | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:04 - Dec 7 with 1003 views | InsideOut |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:02 - Dec 7 by A1079 |
Only had 5 live commentary to go by. Vestergaard was heavily praised for an excellent performance. Adams praised for working so hard and being selfless. Did not sound like we were great but better in the 2nd half and Radio 5 commentators all said that it was not a penalty and very harsh but said Ings did well with the long wait.
Still 20 points, upto 5th and half way to PL safety. |
Yep Verstergaard was brilliant |  |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:06 - Dec 7 with 963 views | green |
Vestergaard looks so assured on the ball as well as solid defending and a few goals this season as well. Credit due to him for knuckling down and playing his way back into the team. |  | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:12 - Dec 7 with 923 views | washington_saint |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:02 - Dec 7 by A1079 |
Only had 5 live commentary to go by. Vestergaard was heavily praised for an excellent performance. Adams praised for working so hard and being selfless. Did not sound like we were great but better in the 2nd half and Radio 5 commentators all said that it was not a penalty and very harsh but said Ings did well with the long wait.
Still 20 points, upto 5th and half way to PL safety. |
Seriously - halfway to safety? Reckon 32 points will be enough this year (max).
Be great if we could get to 32 points by the midway point - some very tough games coming up soon though: Liverpool, City, Leicester, etc.
Hopefully Sheffield Utd remain on 1 point after the weekend! | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:14 - Dec 7 with 914 views | SalisburySaint |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 21:59 - Dec 7 by 1885_SFC |
Well done Saints. A very hard fought 3 points they were. Cracking result!
A definite penalty for me. At the time, he looked just inside the box... just. Sure I'm bias - but don't forget VAR gave it - not the ref.
Anyway, who gives a sh*t!!! Up to 5th. COYS. |
Good to see Graham Potter not complain about the penalty, even though being pressed to say otherwise by Sky interviewer |  | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:16 - Dec 7 with 902 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:14 - Dec 7 by SalisburySaint |
Good to see Graham Potter not complain about the penalty, even though being pressed to say otherwise by Sky interviewer |
He hadn't seen the replays. I didn't think it was a penalty. But delighted to get it of course! | |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:17 - Dec 7 with 900 views | InsideOut |
I hear that's now 1000 premier league points for Saints.
Wonder how many little pompey are stuck on | |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:21 - Dec 7 with 878 views | dirk_doone |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:12 - Dec 7 by washington_saint |
Seriously - halfway to safety? Reckon 32 points will be enough this year (max).
Be great if we could get to 32 points by the midway point - some very tough games coming up soon though: Liverpool, City, Leicester, etc.
Hopefully Sheffield Utd remain on 1 point after the weekend! |
Hopefully, we'll be in a Champions League spot for Christmas. |  |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:26 - Dec 7 with 861 views | cocklebreath |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:04 - Dec 7 by InsideOut |
Yep Verstergaard was brilliant |
MOM by a distance, he’s now one of the best defenders in the premier league, who’d have thought it? |  |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:36 - Dec 7 with 826 views | Sadoldgit |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:26 - Dec 7 by cocklebreath |
MOM by a distance, he’s now one of the best defenders in the premier league, who’d have thought it? |
100% this. Apart from the cracking goal he picks out a pass and steps out well with the ball. He is looking a bargain buy now. |  | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:39 - Dec 7 with 818 views | A1079 |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:12 - Dec 7 by washington_saint |
Seriously - halfway to safety? Reckon 32 points will be enough this year (max).
Be great if we could get to 32 points by the midway point - some very tough games coming up soon though: Liverpool, City, Leicester, etc.
Hopefully Sheffield Utd remain on 1 point after the weekend! |
I work in phases Washington - get 40 points as soon as possible, then 50 and then 60 et al. But, it was a slightly tongue-in-cheek comment though as a lifetime fan I never take anything for granted. I have seen teams do well until Christmas and not be able to buy a win after that and I have seen the opposite as well. | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:42 - Dec 7 with 810 views | Ron11 |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:36 - Dec 7 by Sadoldgit |
100% this. Apart from the cracking goal he picks out a pass and steps out well with the ball. He is looking a bargain buy now. |
I thought he lost the plot against manure when they brought Uruguayan striker on, but apart from that he's looked a transformed player. | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:48 - Dec 7 with 797 views | Bicester_North |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:42 - Dec 7 by Ron11 |
I thought he lost the plot against manure when they brought Uruguayan striker on, but apart from that he's looked a transformed player. |
I didn’t think he had a very good first half tonight either apart from the goal, but different class in the second | |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 23:41 - Dec 7 with 734 views | DorsetIan |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 21:03 - Dec 7 by A1079 |
What has happened to Djenepo? He has not cut it for a long time. He offered so much promise when he joined us but that was how long ago. Surprised he gets into the first team at the moment.
Pleased we are level but not a great first half but a chance to put that right for the second half. |
Nothing‘s happened to Djenepo - he’s always been like this. If anything I thought he was showing the odd sign of being able to play in a team in recent games. Only hopes that he is very young and might get stronger and less erratic.
Great result tonight, battling performance.
But penalty decision for winner was a joke. VAR just gets worse and worse. And we‘re so used to it now that everyone puts up with it. Imagine losing a tight game to some idiot not even in the ground, and who clearly hasn’t got a clue. | |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 23:43 - Dec 7 with 735 views | dirk_doone |
I like this post from the Brighton fans' message board:
"If its any consolation, James Ward-Prowse would have 100% scored from the free kick on the corner of the box, so it didn't make any difference." | |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 08:38 - Dec 8 with 566 views | Sadoldgit |
There is no guarantee that he would have scored from there so the point is moot. The officials took 2 minutes looking at the penalty decision so whether anyone thinks they were right or wrong, they were clearly ok with their decision. It’s about time the attack was given the benefit of the doubt. If you clatter into the back of someone to prevent a goal scoring opportunity you should face the consequences. I don’t think that JWP deliberately handled the ball and it didn’t prevent an immediate goal scoring opportunity but nowadays if the ball hits your hand it gets given, thems the rules.
We gave the ball away cheaply a few times in midfield allowing them to break quickly. Better teams would have punished us just as United did last week. It could have gone either way last night but we made our own luck. Vest picked out that great run from KWP with a superb pass and March gave VAR a decision to make. As Ralph said, we lost matches like that last season which shows how far we have come, but we do get easily exposed when we give the ball away and will get punished by better finishers. Great to see Ings and Redmond back before the busy Christmas schedule and finally a siting of Salisu, although why he hasnt had a run out in the B team is a bit of a mystery. | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:04 - Dec 8 with 544 views | solent_toffee |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 23:41 - Dec 7 by DorsetIan |
Nothing‘s happened to Djenepo - he’s always been like this. If anything I thought he was showing the odd sign of being able to play in a team in recent games. Only hopes that he is very young and might get stronger and less erratic.
Great result tonight, battling performance.
But penalty decision for winner was a joke. VAR just gets worse and worse. And we‘re so used to it now that everyone puts up with it. Imagine losing a tight game to some idiot not even in the ground, and who clearly hasn’t got a clue. |
Following the World Cup in Russia and the seedless effective use of VAR, I thought it was going to be a game changer, a real leveller on the many dodgy decisions that certain clubs tend to get and create a more level playing field.
Just didn’t take into account that the people who are operating VAR in England are the same incompetent fools that have been making a mess of refereeing for years.
Who was the VAR last night? It was never a pen, but the Brighton one against Everton last season was even worse. | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:14 - Dec 8 with 535 views | Sadoldgit |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:04 - Dec 8 by solent_toffee |
Following the World Cup in Russia and the seedless effective use of VAR, I thought it was going to be a game changer, a real leveller on the many dodgy decisions that certain clubs tend to get and create a more level playing field.
Just didn’t take into account that the people who are operating VAR in England are the same incompetent fools that have been making a mess of refereeing for years.
Who was the VAR last night? It was never a pen, but the Brighton one against Everton last season was even worse. |
We are agreed that it was a foul? The question then becomes did the contact that actually bring him down occur inside or outside the box? Although there is initial contact outside the box, for me the contact that takes him out occurs inside the box. It was a very tight decision but I don’t think you can say it was never a penalty. I wouldn’t have felt aggrieved if it had been given against us. | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:26 - Dec 8 with 531 views | kernow |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 22:26 - Dec 7 by cocklebreath |
MOM by a distance, he’s now one of the best defenders in the premier league, who’d have thought it? |
Anyone still offering to drive him to Leicester ? | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:39 - Dec 8 with 517 views | Kennington |
Ralph is the first manager since Koeman that has been able to improve players. Vestagard has been transformed, Romeu looks like a new man. Plus, JWP is so much more reliable and solid.
If Ralph can get the best out of Redmond and Walcott and we don’t pick up too many injuries there’s an outside chance of a cup and or a very good league position. Huge kudos to RH and his coaches, they’re doing an incredible job with a bit of a ragtag squad. | |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 10:23 - Dec 8 with 485 views | PaleRider |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:04 - Dec 8 by solent_toffee |
Following the World Cup in Russia and the seedless effective use of VAR, I thought it was going to be a game changer, a real leveller on the many dodgy decisions that certain clubs tend to get and create a more level playing field.
Just didn’t take into account that the people who are operating VAR in England are the same incompetent fools that have been making a mess of refereeing for years.
Who was the VAR last night? It was never a pen, but the Brighton one against Everton last season was even worse. |
It's not VAR itself - it's the cretins who operate it. It's not that long ago (well within my lifetime at least) that English refs were the best in the business. Today they are just an embarrassing joke (along with the FA). | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 10:25 - Dec 8 with 483 views | DorsetIan |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:14 - Dec 8 by Sadoldgit |
We are agreed that it was a foul? The question then becomes did the contact that actually bring him down occur inside or outside the box? Although there is initial contact outside the box, for me the contact that takes him out occurs inside the box. It was a very tight decision but I don’t think you can say it was never a penalty. I wouldn’t have felt aggrieved if it had been given against us. |
We agree on many things SOG but never in a million years was that a pen. The initial foul was outside the area. To me, whether something else happened while KWP was on his way down is irrelevant.
None of the saints players complained about it. The ref marked the foul where it had first happened. Completely uncontroversial.
Why do we need another person looking at it through a microscope in slow motion? It sums up everything that's wrong with VAR. Decisions should be made by referees and linesmen, with very limited HELP from video for GLARING errors or omissions. This VAR has just changed it completely so that football is being judged by a slide rule and an imperfect one at that.
What it means is that in reality the game is being played by reference to a different set of rules when VAR is involved than for every other football game at lower levels or historically. This can't be right. | |
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| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 10:26 - Dec 8 with 483 views | PaleRider |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 09:39 - Dec 8 by Kennington |
Ralph is the first manager since Koeman that has been able to improve players. Vestagard has been transformed, Romeu looks like a new man. Plus, JWP is so much more reliable and solid.
If Ralph can get the best out of Redmond and Walcott and we don’t pick up too many injuries there’s an outside chance of a cup and or a very good league position. Huge kudos to RH and his coaches, they’re doing an incredible job with a bit of a ragtag squad. |
Not all players - PEH, Boufal? However Ralph improves players who buy into his ethos and can play in the Ralph style - now that's the Southampton way!
I would say he's also improved the supporters - we are now more positive than we were before and long may Ralph stay (even if we have a few blips along the way). | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 10:29 - Dec 8 with 483 views | Sadoldgit |
To be fair to the ref last night, although I agree he was poor, it was a tough call. Even the fans are divided between it was a definite penalty against those that think it definitely wasn’t, and that is with the hindsight of seeing the reply dozens of times. | | | |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 10:40 - Dec 8 with 475 views | DorsetIan |
| Brighton Game Matchday Thread on 10:23 - Dec 8 by PaleRider |
It's not VAR itself - it's the cretins who operate it. It's not that long ago (well within my lifetime at least) that English refs were the best in the business. Today they are just an embarrassing joke (along with the FA). |
The VAR system allows them to draw stupid lines on the screen for offside decisions and to slow down everything and pour over it for minutes.
Stop the lines, stop the slow-mos, give them a time limit, remind them that their remit is to find OBVIOUS errors and that it's not all about them. | |
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