| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago 16:24 - Mar 3 with 2553 views | UTS1885 |
All the terrorism in the 80s we should of done a job on them then.
What a toolbag starmer is btw, never a PM in any shape whatsoever. |  | | |  |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 15:54 - Mar 4 with 853 views | HytheFerrytales |
I'm gonna bet dollars to doughnuts that this whole war process was, and is still, 100% driven by Israel.
For them, Iran has always pressed every single paranoia and persecution button they have (and they have a lot)...They have been begging for Iran to be wiped from the map of the region since 1979.
BN is a wily fox and the last time he was in Washington he proposed "The End Game" to Trump using every lie, exaggeration and ego stroke that he knows Trump loves. BN tells Trump...
We have the intel and we can wipe out the leadership on day 1
You back us from day 1 but blame us if it goes wrong and take credit if it works.
The military phase is a no-contest. we will always be able to show we are winning
After a few weeks you declare a halt and announce peace in our time
You send E-mail to Nobel people telling them where Amazon should send prize
You tell your base you have secured control over Iran's oil reserves for nothing into perpetuity and US will make Trillions
You announce US Big Oil will reconstruct the whole thing bringing in big regional investors
You then write yourself a cheque into your personal wealth fund ( just like you have been doing in eye-watering amounts on everything else already). It's easy when you ignore Congress and International Law.
You then go home and watch in pretend shock when the whole thing goes to shit ( which it shows every sign of doing already)
Trump readily agrees that ,put like that, it is a rather splendid plan..BN and DT shake on it and here we go..Trump playbook 101.
A "no lose" for BN..He continues to stay out of jail where he was nailed on to go prior the Hamas attack. Trump will announce a post-war action plan that neither he, or anyone else , thinks makes any sense whatsoever....His Ballroom construction needs his hands on leadership.
For further reading I recommend the independent warts and all Bio of Pete Hegseth.
You think Trump's dodgy? Try that guy. |  | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 16:37 - Mar 4 with 780 views | kingslandstand1 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 15:51 - Mar 4 by Tonyfromdk |
Being a football forum. I guess UAE will replace Iran at the WC. |
Can you imaging Trump letting any Iranian nationals in? |  |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 16:52 - Mar 4 with 767 views | DorsetIan |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 15:54 - Mar 4 by HytheFerrytales |
I'm gonna bet dollars to doughnuts that this whole war process was, and is still, 100% driven by Israel.
For them, Iran has always pressed every single paranoia and persecution button they have (and they have a lot)...They have been begging for Iran to be wiped from the map of the region since 1979.
BN is a wily fox and the last time he was in Washington he proposed "The End Game" to Trump using every lie, exaggeration and ego stroke that he knows Trump loves. BN tells Trump...
We have the intel and we can wipe out the leadership on day 1
You back us from day 1 but blame us if it goes wrong and take credit if it works.
The military phase is a no-contest. we will always be able to show we are winning
After a few weeks you declare a halt and announce peace in our time
You send E-mail to Nobel people telling them where Amazon should send prize
You tell your base you have secured control over Iran's oil reserves for nothing into perpetuity and US will make Trillions
You announce US Big Oil will reconstruct the whole thing bringing in big regional investors
You then write yourself a cheque into your personal wealth fund ( just like you have been doing in eye-watering amounts on everything else already). It's easy when you ignore Congress and International Law.
You then go home and watch in pretend shock when the whole thing goes to shit ( which it shows every sign of doing already)
Trump readily agrees that ,put like that, it is a rather splendid plan..BN and DT shake on it and here we go..Trump playbook 101.
A "no lose" for BN..He continues to stay out of jail where he was nailed on to go prior the Hamas attack. Trump will announce a post-war action plan that neither he, or anyone else , thinks makes any sense whatsoever....His Ballroom construction needs his hands on leadership.
For further reading I recommend the independent warts and all Bio of Pete Hegseth.
You think Trump's dodgy? Try that guy. |
Trump's personality is such that he assumes that he's always winning. That everything he does is 'perfect'.
I think that makes him ease to play. Putin has certainly played him, and it's probably no coincidence that Israel has become far more aggressive in Gaza, the West Bank, and now in relation to Iran too during Trump's Presidency. |  |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:55 - Mar 4 with 700 views | Tonyfromdk |
It’s a comfort to know my fellow Uglies are so clued up on M.E politics..
Here’s me thinking, will Ross Stewart be fit for Selection on Saturday ??
Everyone has their view or “knowledge” of the current situation. It’s called democracy.
Personally I’m a Trump supporter and lived in Israel from 85 to 87 on a Kibbutz. They both have my support because I’m so “knowledgeable” about Middle Eastern affairs and Trump is helping old friends . What about our Scottish striker though, will he be fit ?? [Post edited 4 Mar 19:18]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 19:32 - Mar 4 with 671 views | HytheFerrytales |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:55 - Mar 4 by Tonyfromdk |
It’s a comfort to know my fellow Uglies are so clued up on M.E politics..
Here’s me thinking, will Ross Stewart be fit for Selection on Saturday ??
Everyone has their view or “knowledge” of the current situation. It’s called democracy.
Personally I’m a Trump supporter and lived in Israel from 85 to 87 on a Kibbutz. They both have my support because I’m so “knowledgeable” about Middle Eastern affairs and Trump is helping old friends . What about our Scottish striker though, will he be fit ?? [Post edited 4 Mar 19:18]
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OK Tony, happy to engage with you on this one.
First you have to tell me if you think Eckert is likely to be tempted to play him in a Cup game in which we are long odds second favourites to win.
Would he not be better served maximising his availability for the majority of the 11 league games remaining, all of which are pretty much "must win" or "must not lose"
As for asking if he will be fit, I fear you are mistaking me for the Club doctor. | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 21:00 - Mar 4 with 607 views | Tonyfromdk |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 19:32 - Mar 4 by HytheFerrytales |
OK Tony, happy to engage with you on this one.
First you have to tell me if you think Eckert is likely to be tempted to play him in a Cup game in which we are long odds second favourites to win.
Would he not be better served maximising his availability for the majority of the 11 league games remaining, all of which are pretty much "must win" or "must not lose"
As for asking if he will be fit, I fear you are mistaking me for the Club doctor. |
I think Eckert doesn’t care about that.
If he’s ready, then I’m sure he’ll play some part of the game.
My guess is, if fit he’ll start and be subbed off later.
Of course no one knows if he’ll get one of his toes stuck in the tap whilst rinsing his hair in the bath ….😬
Hope all is well with you Mr H. [Post edited 4 Mar 21:25]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 21:38 - Mar 4 with 580 views | HytheFerrytales |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 21:00 - Mar 4 by Tonyfromdk |
I think Eckert doesn’t care about that.
If he’s ready, then I’m sure he’ll play some part of the game.
My guess is, if fit he’ll start and be subbed off later.
Of course no one knows if he’ll get one of his toes stuck in the tap whilst rinsing his hair in the bath ….😬
Hope all is well with you Mr H. [Post edited 4 Mar 21:25]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 23:29 - Mar 4 with 544 views | Bridders2 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 13:41 - Mar 4 by Southamptonfan |
Pardon the pun, but I think Starmer is right on this occassion to hold fire. We all know what happened with Iraq, and what everyone thinks of Blair right, who went in all guns blazing, following America.
The thing that doesn't quite make sense to me, is that although clearly the Iranian regime is dangerous, but how do we know they were about to use their nuclear weapons? Arn't Russia, North Korea, potentially China, Syria, and others just as dangerous? Trump and.Putin are allowed to have nuclear weapons but Iran isn't? Is this because Trump and Putin are more sensible with them? And where have we heard before that a country had weapons of.mass destruction???
Do we really want to skint this country again to get involved in a war, that might last for decades? Look at what happened with the Taliban. The Taliban who were ousted, came back, so they were never ousted at all. It cost hundreds of billions. Do we want to get involved with all that money wasted again and most importantly loss of lives? [Post edited 4 Mar 13:41]
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It's not going to be that sort of war. Trump has said they are never going to put boots on the ground, no-one wants another Iraq/Afghanistan debacle.
It's an attempt at regime change, destruction of Irans ballistic weapons etc and obliteration of Irans nuclear programme. | | | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 23:57 - Mar 4 with 507 views | Southamptonfan |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 23:29 - Mar 4 by Bridders2 |
It's not going to be that sort of war. Trump has said they are never going to put boots on the ground, no-one wants another Iraq/Afghanistan debacle.
It's an attempt at regime change, destruction of Irans ballistic weapons etc and obliteration of Irans nuclear programme. |
In case Iran use the nuclear programme? What about Putin though? He's a nutter too, yet he is allowed a full nuclear programme and he could use it. And the North Korea leader too. The way I see it, if my country the UK is under attack, I support any action to protect our people. But we the public have not been made aware of the danger Iran presents, any more than the danger Russia, China, or North Korea present. There are many countries in the world that "could" use their weapons. And the problem here is that even if the Iran leadership are removed, there are probably many more hiding ready to do what the previous regime was doing. The Taliban were removed, but only temporarily, so that war was a complete waste of money and life. [Post edited 5 Mar 0:05]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 07:35 - Mar 5 with 430 views | SalisburySaint |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 23:29 - Mar 4 by Bridders2 |
It's not going to be that sort of war. Trump has said they are never going to put boots on the ground, no-one wants another Iraq/Afghanistan debacle.
It's an attempt at regime change, destruction of Irans ballistic weapons etc and obliteration of Irans nuclear programme. |
I take everything Trump says with a pinch of salt, he contradicts himself all the time
Hopefully he will be true to his word this time, there is a first for everything [Post edited 5 Mar 7:38]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 10:37 - Mar 5 with 384 views | dirk_doone |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 07:35 - Mar 5 by SalisburySaint |
I take everything Trump says with a pinch of salt, he contradicts himself all the time
Hopefully he will be true to his word this time, there is a first for everything [Post edited 5 Mar 7:38]
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It's just turning into another awful war, with the usual death and destruction, which does nobody, apart from arms dealers, any good. I see Trump is already advertising for them, saying, "America has the best weapons in the world."
There are idiots who enjoy these wars and all the killing that takes place as long as they can view it safely from a distance, like it's a video game. [Post edited 5 Mar 10:38]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:14 - Mar 5 with 280 views | Jellybaby |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 16:52 - Mar 4 by DorsetIan |
Trump's personality is such that he assumes that he's always winning. That everything he does is 'perfect'.
I think that makes him ease to play. Putin has certainly played him, and it's probably no coincidence that Israel has become far more aggressive in Gaza, the West Bank, and now in relation to Iran too during Trump's Presidency. |
America is controlled by Israel. Doesn't matter who is in charge. It's always Israel first. Those concentrating on the theatrical personality of Trump are missing the point and enabling the distraction. | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:39 - Mar 5 with 263 views | HytheFerrytales |
Was watching the Sky News recap of today's events in the ME when the flashing "Breaking News" bar lights up....What now?...What has happened ?.....Then the news I had been dreading comes on the screen..
Britney Spears arrested on suspicion of DUI.....FFS. | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:08 - Mar 5 with 235 views | 1885_SFC |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:39 - Mar 5 by HytheFerrytales |
Was watching the Sky News recap of today's events in the ME when the flashing "Breaking News" bar lights up....What now?...What has happened ?.....Then the news I had been dreading comes on the screen..
Britney Spears arrested on suspicion of DUI.....FFS. |
Poor old Britney married Iranian Sam Asghari in 2022 but then divorced the following year. Apparently she was watching the Middle East war unfold live on the telly the other night and decided to get pissed - then drive a car - as you do.
I'm sure her vast fortune will help pay for a very clever attorney to use that as an excuse to get her off... 'military anxiety/trauma/missile mental torture' etc etc. |  |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:40 - Mar 5 with 210 views | HytheFerrytales |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:08 - Mar 5 by 1885_SFC |
Poor old Britney married Iranian Sam Asghari in 2022 but then divorced the following year. Apparently she was watching the Middle East war unfold live on the telly the other night and decided to get pissed - then drive a car - as you do.
I'm sure her vast fortune will help pay for a very clever attorney to use that as an excuse to get her off... 'military anxiety/trauma/missile mental torture' etc etc. |
Good call...
I see Trump wants the right to choose the next Iranian Supreme Leader.
The way this shitshow is headed, it wouldn't surprise me to see Netanyahu's wife in the job by next Monday. | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:54 - Mar 5 with 193 views | kernow |
I know this thread is in the wrong forum but I do wish you lads would stay on topic. | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 23:21 - Mar 5 with 150 views | DorsetIan |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:14 - Mar 5 by Jellybaby |
America is controlled by Israel. Doesn't matter who is in charge. It's always Israel first. Those concentrating on the theatrical personality of Trump are missing the point and enabling the distraction. |
It’s not news, Jelly, that the US supports Israel and that there is a powerful pro-Israeli Lobby in the US. You don’t need conspiracy theory for that - it’s all in plain sight.
But Trump is the first President I can remember that has given Israel a blank cheque to pursue whatever aggressive/expansionist regional military agenda it pleases. | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 07:47 - Mar 6 with 101 views | Jellybaby |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 23:21 - Mar 5 by DorsetIan |
It’s not news, Jelly, that the US supports Israel and that there is a powerful pro-Israeli Lobby in the US. You don’t need conspiracy theory for that - it’s all in plain sight.
But Trump is the first President I can remember that has given Israel a blank cheque to pursue whatever aggressive/expansionist regional military agenda it pleases. |
So the bigger question is why is there this powerful pro- Israeli lobby and who is funding it and why is every US president including the Democrat ones beholden to it?
Trump will be gone at some point soon, but this powerful lobby and the forever wars won't be unless these predators hiding in the shadows are exposed, so don't waste your time bad mouthing the pantomime villains they serve up. | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 10:36 - Mar 6 with 33 views | saints__fan__73 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 19:16 - Mar 3 by Jellybaby |
He either gets paid very well for his acting role, or there is so much kompromat on him he has no choice but to read his lines and get on with it. Either way, he is just the latest in a long line of puppets who act as cover for those who really run the show.
What better distraction from the horrors of the Epstein files than a war - Don't look at the satanic pedos eating and raping kids in the West, we have a new boogie man in the Middle East, look over there, lets kill them now too. [Post edited 3 Mar 19:23]
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Trump may well be a nutcase but from his career as failed Casino owner, to lunatic TV show host to US President I don't see a bloke who would be happy to read what people are telling him. Especially lizard headed ones...
Jells, I've been meaning to ask you. The great thing about you conspiracy theorists is that, if you buy into one then you are honour bound to buy into each and every single other one. it's greatly entertaining.
I saw a great one on twitter this week. A lot of your colleagues are convinced that Jim Carey isn't Jim Carey anymore and is being played by another person. I'd love to hear your take on this. :) [Post edited 6 Mar 10:36]
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