| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago 16:24 - Mar 3 with 4654 views | UTS1885 |
All the terrorism in the 80s we should of done a job on them then.
What a toolbag starmer is btw, never a PM in any shape whatsoever. |  | | |  |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:30 - Mar 3 with 2325 views | kernow |
We did, back in the fifties, when they were friendly. |  | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:33 - Mar 3 with 2343 views | dirk_doone |
What terrorist attacks has Iran committed in the UK or USA?
The worst terrorist attacks have been carried out by Sunni Muslims who hate the Shia Muslims of Iran as much as they hate the Jews. The 911 terrorists came from Iran's enemy, Saudi Arabia. So, why not attack Saudi Arabia? What good have the American attacks done in Afghanistan or Iraq or anywhere?
I have spent many years in the Middle East, and found the Iranians to be the friendliest and most civilized of all the nationalities there.
You could argue that regime change would be good, but bombing a Middle Eastern country into submission just creates anarchy and hatred, not a nicer government. Thousands will die for nothing. What government do 'we' want them to have: one like Trump's in the USA or one like Starmer's in the UK? A Trump-style government would certainly be a greater danger to the world. [Post edited 3 Mar 17:54]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:44 - Mar 3 with 2309 views | cocklebreath |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:55 - Mar 3 with 2282 views | Ron11 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:33 - Mar 3 by dirk_doone |
What terrorist attacks has Iran committed in the UK or USA?
The worst terrorist attacks have been carried out by Sunni Muslims who hate the Shia Muslims of Iran as much as they hate the Jews. The 911 terrorists came from Iran's enemy, Saudi Arabia. So, why not attack Saudi Arabia? What good have the American attacks done in Afghanistan or Iraq or anywhere?
I have spent many years in the Middle East, and found the Iranians to be the friendliest and most civilized of all the nationalities there.
You could argue that regime change would be good, but bombing a Middle Eastern country into submission just creates anarchy and hatred, not a nicer government. Thousands will die for nothing. What government do 'we' want them to have: one like Trump's in the USA or one like Starmer's in the UK? A Trump-style government would certainly be a greater danger to the world. [Post edited 3 Mar 17:54]
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I also spent several years in the Middle East, and as with you, any Iranians I met or worked with were friendly, intelligent and sometimes even liked a beer or three.
What almost all of them DID NOT like was the Islamist regime and the tyrants running their country, in fact most of them had moved themselves and their families out of Iran where their wives and daughters would not be regarded as second class citizens/cows in a field.
They'll be hoping that the ISIS funding bastards will be gone from their country soon. | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:00 - Mar 3 with 2276 views | dirk_doone |
"They'll be hoping that the ISIS funding bastards will be gone from their country soon."
You didn't seem to learn much from your time in Iran.
Iran did not fund ISIS. In fact, Iran and its proxy militias were instrumental in fighting against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, viewing the Sunni extremist group as a major threat to Shias in the region | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:06 - Mar 3 with 2250 views | Heisenberg |
The recent Rest is History podcast series on the Iranian revolution and the hostage crisis is well worth listening to. It’s also slightly mad how it all unfolded.
Even madder was Trumps press conference yesterday during which he started rambling on about the colour of the curtains and how all the building work at the White House was upsetting his wife. It’s all insane. |  |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:24 - Mar 3 with 2224 views | saintmark1976 |
The more I see and hear Trump the more convinced I am that somewhere in the States there’s a Dementia Care Home Matron frantically trying to locate an unaccounted for resident. | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 19:16 - Mar 3 with 2173 views | Jellybaby |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:24 - Mar 3 by saintmark1976 |
The more I see and hear Trump the more convinced I am that somewhere in the States there’s a Dementia Care Home Matron frantically trying to locate an unaccounted for resident. |
He either gets paid very well for his acting role, or there is so much kompromat on him he has no choice but to read his lines and get on with it. Either way, he is just the latest in a long line of puppets who act as cover for those who really run the show.
What better distraction from the horrors of the Epstein files than a war - Don't look at the satanic pedos eating and raping kids in the West, we have a new boogie man in the Middle East, look over there, lets kill them now too. [Post edited 3 Mar 19:23]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 19:20 - Mar 3 with 2167 views | Jellybaby |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:33 - Mar 3 by dirk_doone |
What terrorist attacks has Iran committed in the UK or USA?
The worst terrorist attacks have been carried out by Sunni Muslims who hate the Shia Muslims of Iran as much as they hate the Jews. The 911 terrorists came from Iran's enemy, Saudi Arabia. So, why not attack Saudi Arabia? What good have the American attacks done in Afghanistan or Iraq or anywhere?
I have spent many years in the Middle East, and found the Iranians to be the friendliest and most civilized of all the nationalities there.
You could argue that regime change would be good, but bombing a Middle Eastern country into submission just creates anarchy and hatred, not a nicer government. Thousands will die for nothing. What government do 'we' want them to have: one like Trump's in the USA or one like Starmer's in the UK? A Trump-style government would certainly be a greater danger to the world. [Post edited 3 Mar 17:54]
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You are right about the people in this area being the nicest people, I'm just surprised re your comments about 9/11. I have yet to meet someone from this area who is not completely convinced that 9/11 was a US/Zionist inside job? | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 20:33 - Mar 3 with 2086 views | kingslandstand1 |
Starmer is just making us a laughing stock world wide, and now Trump is publicly shaming him, rightly or wrongly
How far out of his depth is he? [Post edited 3 Mar 20:38]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 22:45 - Mar 3 with 1994 views | cocklebreath |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 20:33 - Mar 3 by kingslandstand1 |
Starmer is just making us a laughing stock world wide, and now Trump is publicly shaming him, rightly or wrongly
How far out of his depth is he? [Post edited 3 Mar 20:38]
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I think a lot of people will have more respect for Starmer if he fights his corner against the big baby | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 23:10 - Mar 3 with 1968 views | 1885_SFC |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:33 - Mar 3 by dirk_doone |
What terrorist attacks has Iran committed in the UK or USA?
The worst terrorist attacks have been carried out by Sunni Muslims who hate the Shia Muslims of Iran as much as they hate the Jews. The 911 terrorists came from Iran's enemy, Saudi Arabia. So, why not attack Saudi Arabia? What good have the American attacks done in Afghanistan or Iraq or anywhere?
I have spent many years in the Middle East, and found the Iranians to be the friendliest and most civilized of all the nationalities there.
You could argue that regime change would be good, but bombing a Middle Eastern country into submission just creates anarchy and hatred, not a nicer government. Thousands will die for nothing. What government do 'we' want them to have: one like Trump's in the USA or one like Starmer's in the UK? A Trump-style government would certainly be a greater danger to the world. [Post edited 3 Mar 17:54]
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I did two 6-month stints on a Type-42 destroyer in 1984 and 1986 during the Iran-Iraq War and can assure you the Iranian military (not the civilians) are the biggest arsewipes of all.
We were tasked with escorting British & European tankers through the narrow Strait of Hormuz and up to the big oil terminals in Saudi, Bahrain, etc. Iranian fighter jets would harass us morning, noon and night by deliberately flying to the 20-mile distance limit we allowed before our Sea Dart missiles were launched at them. They would do it at 2.00 am, 4.00 am, 3.00 pm, midnight, whenever they wanted - just to keep us on our toes and make sure none of got much sleep or rest. They would turn away exactly at the 20 miles limit the fookers.
I personally witnessed several large tankers badly damaged & under Dutch salvage crew control dead in the water in the Strait over the many months of patrols as they tried to repair them enough to limp into a nearby port. I would imagine some of their crews were injured or killed judging by the huge holes & resulting fires in the superstructure that were made by missiles fired by the Iranian fighter jets.
I don't have any time whatsoever for the Iranian regime or its military. Good riddance. I hope the people do rise up and take their country back. Historically, Iran (Persia) was always very conservative. Anyone who thinks allowing the current Iran regime to obtain nuclear weapons wouldn't be anything other than totally disastrous for the world needs to look in the mirror & give their head a wobble. |  |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 07:18 - Mar 4 with 1832 views | yateleysaint |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:30 - Mar 3 by kernow |
We did, back in the fifties, when they were friendly. |
Add Iran to the long list of countries we have helped mess up and then complain about when it all kicks off. |  |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 07:20 - Mar 4 with 1827 views | yateleysaint |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 18:06 - Mar 3 by Heisenberg |
The recent Rest is History podcast series on the Iranian revolution and the hostage crisis is well worth listening to. It’s also slightly mad how it all unfolded.
Even madder was Trumps press conference yesterday during which he started rambling on about the colour of the curtains and how all the building work at the White House was upsetting his wife. It’s all insane. |
He did a good job of going on about how demented Biden was so that people were distracted from his lunacy. | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 07:57 - Mar 4 with 1764 views | kingslandstand1 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 22:45 - Mar 3 by cocklebreath |
I think a lot of people will have more respect for Starmer if he fights his corner against the big baby |
So why doesn't he? | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 09:39 - Mar 4 with 1718 views | DorsetIan |
Trying to second guess or keep up with Trump is foolish.
This is the guy that gets upset because he hasn't been given a peace prize and yet who supports Israel in Gaza and then starts a regional war in the Middle East. And meanwhile takes no meaningful steps to stop Putin.
His foreign policy, like his mind and his speeches, is all over the place.
We can only watch and, yes, tread carefully as a nation in the wake of the chaos he creates. |  |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 10:44 - Mar 4 with 1663 views | Bridders2 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 07:20 - Mar 4 by yateleysaint |
He did a good job of going on about how demented Biden was so that people were distracted from his lunacy. |
So you'd be happy for the Iranian regime to have nuclear weapons then ? | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 10:51 - Mar 4 with 1658 views | Bridders2 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 09:39 - Mar 4 by DorsetIan |
Trying to second guess or keep up with Trump is foolish.
This is the guy that gets upset because he hasn't been given a peace prize and yet who supports Israel in Gaza and then starts a regional war in the Middle East. And meanwhile takes no meaningful steps to stop Putin.
His foreign policy, like his mind and his speeches, is all over the place.
We can only watch and, yes, tread carefully as a nation in the wake of the chaos he creates. |
So you are happy for the Iranian regime to have nuclear weapons then? | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 10:54 - Mar 4 with 1646 views | Bridders2 |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 17:33 - Mar 3 by dirk_doone |
What terrorist attacks has Iran committed in the UK or USA?
The worst terrorist attacks have been carried out by Sunni Muslims who hate the Shia Muslims of Iran as much as they hate the Jews. The 911 terrorists came from Iran's enemy, Saudi Arabia. So, why not attack Saudi Arabia? What good have the American attacks done in Afghanistan or Iraq or anywhere?
I have spent many years in the Middle East, and found the Iranians to be the friendliest and most civilized of all the nationalities there.
You could argue that regime change would be good, but bombing a Middle Eastern country into submission just creates anarchy and hatred, not a nicer government. Thousands will die for nothing. What government do 'we' want them to have: one like Trump's in the USA or one like Starmer's in the UK? A Trump-style government would certainly be a greater danger to the world. [Post edited 3 Mar 17:54]
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Since 2022 our secret services have thwarted 20 terrorist plots against the UK. | | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 11:25 - Mar 4 with 1628 views | DorsetIan |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 10:51 - Mar 4 by Bridders2 |
So you are happy for the Iranian regime to have nuclear weapons then? |
Obviously not.
You think this is all about nuclear weapons then? | |
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 11:39 - Mar 4 with 1619 views | 1885_SFC |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 22:45 - Mar 3 by cocklebreath |
I think a lot of people will have more respect for Starmer if he fights his corner against the big baby |
'Full of fear' Kier is so out of his depth it's laughable. He's a civil servant - not (and never will be) a politician.
The American B2 bombers have targeted the caves in Iran where they store thousands of missiles. They fly out from Missouri on a long 32-hour round mission to do so. The Yanks wanted to use Diego Garcia in order to cut flight time. Our embarrassing PM decided otherwise.
Everyone knows 'full of fear' Kier did so in order not to upset the Muslim vote here in the UK. With the May elections just around the corner, and after Labour's disastrous showing in the recent Manchester by-election, he knows he's going to need it. The bloke is a snake. [Post edited 4 Mar 11:40]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 12:03 - Mar 4 with 1581 views | SalisburySaint |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 11:39 - Mar 4 by 1885_SFC |
'Full of fear' Kier is so out of his depth it's laughable. He's a civil servant - not (and never will be) a politician.
The American B2 bombers have targeted the caves in Iran where they store thousands of missiles. They fly out from Missouri on a long 32-hour round mission to do so. The Yanks wanted to use Diego Garcia in order to cut flight time. Our embarrassing PM decided otherwise.
Everyone knows 'full of fear' Kier did so in order not to upset the Muslim vote here in the UK. With the May elections just around the corner, and after Labour's disastrous showing in the recent Manchester by-election, he knows he's going to need it. The bloke is a snake. [Post edited 4 Mar 11:40]
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I’m not a fan of Kier, but totally with him on this one, yet another unnecessary war, many innocent lives will be lost
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 13:41 - Mar 4 with 1472 views | Southamptonfan |
Pardon the pun, but I think Starmer is right on this occassion to hold fire. We all know what happened with Iraq, and what everyone thinks of Blair right, who went in all guns blazing, following America.
The thing that doesn't quite make sense to me, is that although clearly the Iranian regime is dangerous, but how do we know they were about to use their nuclear weapons? Arn't Russia, North Korea, potentially China, Syria, and others just as dangerous? Trump and.Putin are allowed to have nuclear weapons but Iran isn't? Is this because Trump and Putin are more sensible with them? And where have we heard before that a country had weapons of.mass destruction???
Do we really want to skint this country again to get involved in a war, that might last for decades? Look at what happened with the Taliban. The Taliban who were ousted, came back, so they were never ousted at all. It cost hundreds of billions. Do we want to get involved with all that money wasted again and most importantly loss of lives? [Post edited 4 Mar 13:41]
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| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 15:36 - Mar 4 with 1377 views | SonicBoom |
Well previously the US spent 20 years and 3.5 trillion dollars to replace the taliban with the taliban. Brilliant.
It's also generally accepted that you can't effect regime change from the air. I suspect Trump will bomb them like crazy and eventually claim victory, and inform the Iranian people that they are now free to take over the country and he will leave.
The people still won't be able to do it, and Trump will shrug and say that it's their own fault.
The hardline government will be replaced by guess what....another hardline government. |  | | |
| We should have taken to the Iranians Many Decades Ago on 15:51 - Mar 4 with 1363 views | Tonyfromdk |
Being a football forum. I guess UAE will replace Iran at the WC. | | | |
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