| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist 12:54 - Jul 21 with 4971 views | PatfromPoole | Oh dear. If only this had surfaced a few days ago…… |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 13:52 - Jul 21 with 3437 views | DorsetIan | They don't care what she or said did in the past. The ERG have got her just where they want her, about to unleash the sort of 'Singapore on Thames' tax policies that they've always wanted. The final piece of the Brexit project is about to fall into place. It's going to be an interesting next two years. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:22 - Jul 21 with 3408 views | Sadoldgit | I doubt if it would have made any difference. She campaign to remain in the EU but is now saying that she was wrong and it was right to leave. Career politicians saying anything to get votes? What a shock. We have what, over 60 million people in this country? You’d think that we could find better people to represent us in Parliament, but people still suck this guff up. They even gave our disgraced PM a standing ovation when he left the House yesterday. They should have pelted him with rotten tomatoes and made him crawl out in shame. We need an injection of integrity into politics, are we really going to get that from Truss? |  | |  |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:29 - Jul 21 with 3401 views | Chesham_Saint | So, you’re basically advocating the ‘Mother of Parliaments’ should indulge in physical abuse because you disagree with someone’s policies. How’s about we pelt the opposing team with rotten fruit at SMS? I sure Hampshire Plod would allow that. As for Truss’s views changing I’d regard that as healthy as surely that’s exactly what every politician expects of the public? It’s when someone had said something very recently and then claims the opposite a few months later that things get really ‘fishy’ (a certain MP 17 miles east of Southampton should take note). |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:34 - Jul 21 with 3396 views | Bazza |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:22 - Jul 21 by Sadoldgit | I doubt if it would have made any difference. She campaign to remain in the EU but is now saying that she was wrong and it was right to leave. Career politicians saying anything to get votes? What a shock. We have what, over 60 million people in this country? You’d think that we could find better people to represent us in Parliament, but people still suck this guff up. They even gave our disgraced PM a standing ovation when he left the House yesterday. They should have pelted him with rotten tomatoes and made him crawl out in shame. We need an injection of integrity into politics, are we really going to get that from Truss? |
They gave Boris an ovation perhaps as a matter of courtesy ( unlike the vulgar opposition) and because he got us out of the awful undemocratic EU and through Covid. Regarding Truss not to my liking at all but people tend to move politically to the right somewhat as they mature, start jobs and pay their own bills. Some poor souls of course remain in the LibDems….or join a union |  | |  |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 15:47 - Jul 21 with 3338 views | Berber | It would not be the first or last time the Tories had a leader you could not depend on their word to be the same the next day let alone the next week. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 18:02 - Jul 21 with 3246 views | Berber |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:29 - Jul 21 by Chesham_Saint | So, you’re basically advocating the ‘Mother of Parliaments’ should indulge in physical abuse because you disagree with someone’s policies. How’s about we pelt the opposing team with rotten fruit at SMS? I sure Hampshire Plod would allow that. As for Truss’s views changing I’d regard that as healthy as surely that’s exactly what every politician expects of the public? It’s when someone had said something very recently and then claims the opposite a few months later that things get really ‘fishy’ (a certain MP 17 miles east of Southampton should take note). |
In principle, you are of course correct. However, to have a leader who has a track record of calling fundamental constitutional issues wrongly, isn’t great is it? Especially when she is espousing tax cuts in an inflationary economic cycle, especially when it is against most, if not all expert advise. Though I accept that some economic forecasters always take a pessimistic view of the British economy no matter what is going on, and are consistently proved wrong. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 18:56 - Jul 21 with 3206 views | SouthSeaSaint |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:29 - Jul 21 by Chesham_Saint | So, you’re basically advocating the ‘Mother of Parliaments’ should indulge in physical abuse because you disagree with someone’s policies. How’s about we pelt the opposing team with rotten fruit at SMS? I sure Hampshire Plod would allow that. As for Truss’s views changing I’d regard that as healthy as surely that’s exactly what every politician expects of the public? It’s when someone had said something very recently and then claims the opposite a few months later that things get really ‘fishy’ (a certain MP 17 miles east of Southampton should take note). |
Chesham, Of course every one has the opportunity to change their mind which presumably enables the electorate to have another go at the Brexit referendum as the indicated benefits have not measured up to those promoted by the ERG supporters. |  | |  |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:04 - Jul 21 with 3127 views | SaintNick | In truth her political career was common knowledge, this speech is referenced on he wikipedia page, so im not sure why it has been brought up now, it is hardly a revelation |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:07 - Jul 21 with 3119 views | PatfromPoole |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:04 - Jul 21 by SaintNick | In truth her political career was common knowledge, this speech is referenced on he wikipedia page, so im not sure why it has been brought up now, it is hardly a revelation |
Haven’t looked on her Wikipedia page. Am too busy trying to work out how we can adequately replace Broja. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:25 - Jul 21 with 3110 views | SaintNick |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:07 - Jul 21 by PatfromPoole | Haven’t looked on her Wikipedia page. Am too busy trying to work out how we can adequately replace Broja. |
You should check her wikepedia turned out she left the Lib Dems because despite scoring 6 goals in a years loan to the Labour party she still couldnt force herself into the front benches and eventually moved to the conservatives the following season |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:46 - Jul 21 with 3092 views | PatfromPoole |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:25 - Jul 21 by SaintNick | You should check her wikepedia turned out she left the Lib Dems because despite scoring 6 goals in a years loan to the Labour party she still couldnt force herself into the front benches and eventually moved to the conservatives the following season |
Was that because the Labour leader had baffling policies and Cabinet selection, preferring to rely on ageing MP’s who very rarely made an impact at the despatch box? |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 22:09 - Jul 21 with 3073 views | SaintNick |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:46 - Jul 21 by PatfromPoole | Was that because the Labour leader had baffling policies and Cabinet selection, preferring to rely on ageing MP’s who very rarely made an impact at the despatch box? |
She preferred to go to a side that would give her more money than game time, took her years to be a first team regular |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 22:17 - Jul 21 with 3061 views | PatfromPoole |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 22:09 - Jul 21 by SaintNick | She preferred to go to a side that would give her more money than game time, took her years to be a first team regular |
Her heart was with the reds, but a lack of direction from the top, no willingness to adapt and a frustrating lack of ambition from the hierarchy led to a defection to the blues. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 07:55 - Jul 22 with 2994 views | Berber |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 22:17 - Jul 21 by PatfromPoole | Her heart was with the reds, but a lack of direction from the top, no willingness to adapt and a frustrating lack of ambition from the hierarchy led to a defection to the blues. |
Where she is a squad player, but has cult status from home supporters. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 09:02 - Jul 22 with 2952 views | Sadoldgit |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:34 - Jul 21 by Bazza | They gave Boris an ovation perhaps as a matter of courtesy ( unlike the vulgar opposition) and because he got us out of the awful undemocratic EU and through Covid. Regarding Truss not to my liking at all but people tend to move politically to the right somewhat as they mature, start jobs and pay their own bills. Some poor souls of course remain in the LibDems….or join a union |
And some poor souls continue to vote for those who screw them over time ad time and time again. Perhaps you noticed that May was in no hurry to jump to her feet either. Good to see a small amount of integrity on the benches of the sycophants. [Post edited 22 Jul 2022 9:04]
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 09:21 - Jul 22 with 2933 views | Sadoldgit |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 14:29 - Jul 21 by Chesham_Saint | So, you’re basically advocating the ‘Mother of Parliaments’ should indulge in physical abuse because you disagree with someone’s policies. How’s about we pelt the opposing team with rotten fruit at SMS? I sure Hampshire Plod would allow that. As for Truss’s views changing I’d regard that as healthy as surely that’s exactly what every politician expects of the public? It’s when someone had said something very recently and then claims the opposite a few months later that things get really ‘fishy’ (a certain MP 17 miles east of Southampton should take note). |
I was speaking figuratively Chesham, as I am sure you knew. It is not so much about his policies (or lack of them) and more to do with his complete lack of integrity and morality. A Poundland Trump in so many ways. He has dragged our politics and country through the gutter. He doesn’t care one jot about you and the rest of us. It has always ever only been about what is best for Alexander Johnson. Thatcher was deeply divisive and got plenty of abuse from those who didn’t agree with her but I have never heard so much vitriol aimed at a sitting PM in my lifetime. His benches could have offered up some muted applause out of courtesy but don’t you find it odd that they should react in such a way after just stabbing him in the back? At least the opposition benches and Theresa May, up to a point, behaved in an appropriate manor. The delusional fool even had the nerve to run our noses into the mistake that millions of people made in voting for him by saying that he left “with his head held high.” He left in disgrace, not that you would know it from the Tory benches. As the the sign off, “Hasta la vista, baby,” he couldn’t have given a bigger two fingered gesture to the rest of us. It’s all been a game to him and he signed off with another inane comment whilst leaving the rest of us, and his party, in the shit. |  | |  |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 10:42 - Jul 22 with 2880 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 07:55 - Jul 22 by Berber | Where she is a squad player, but has cult status from home supporters. |
Did she ever kiss the badge though? |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 12:54 - Jul 22 with 2840 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 09:21 - Jul 22 by Sadoldgit | I was speaking figuratively Chesham, as I am sure you knew. It is not so much about his policies (or lack of them) and more to do with his complete lack of integrity and morality. A Poundland Trump in so many ways. He has dragged our politics and country through the gutter. He doesn’t care one jot about you and the rest of us. It has always ever only been about what is best for Alexander Johnson. Thatcher was deeply divisive and got plenty of abuse from those who didn’t agree with her but I have never heard so much vitriol aimed at a sitting PM in my lifetime. His benches could have offered up some muted applause out of courtesy but don’t you find it odd that they should react in such a way after just stabbing him in the back? At least the opposition benches and Theresa May, up to a point, behaved in an appropriate manor. The delusional fool even had the nerve to run our noses into the mistake that millions of people made in voting for him by saying that he left “with his head held high.” He left in disgrace, not that you would know it from the Tory benches. As the the sign off, “Hasta la vista, baby,” he couldn’t have given a bigger two fingered gesture to the rest of us. It’s all been a game to him and he signed off with another inane comment whilst leaving the rest of us, and his party, in the shit. |
You’re entitled to your viewpoint. I would argue there have been worse PMs and best of all he hasn’t dragged us into any wars on false pretences. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 15:31 - Jul 22 with 2783 views | Berber |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 10:42 - Jul 22 by kingslandstand1 | Did she ever kiss the badge though? |
Beeeaugh! |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 16:15 - Jul 22 with 2761 views | Sadoldgit |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 12:54 - Jul 22 by Chesham_Saint | You’re entitled to your viewpoint. I would argue there have been worse PMs and best of all he hasn’t dragged us into any wars on false pretences. |
There were a lot of good things done domestically under the Blair government. Johnson has left this country in a mess with its international reputation at a low. We weren’t the only country to join the coalition forces alongside the US in the Iraq war. Blair won 3 elections. Johnson didn’t survive one term before being kicked out by his own party. You have your view but I think history will see his short lived term very differently. I have lost count of the number of people calling phone in radio stations over the last few weeks saying they voted for Johnson but would never vote for him again. He lied to everyone from the Queen downwards, consistently. I didn’t agree with the war but the world is certainly a better place without Hussien. It is also a better place without Johnson. |  | |  |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 16:24 - Jul 22 with 2749 views | JaySaint | The world is a better place without Hussain. Yep, you actually said it. |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 16:32 - Jul 22 with 2733 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 16:15 - Jul 22 by Sadoldgit | There were a lot of good things done domestically under the Blair government. Johnson has left this country in a mess with its international reputation at a low. We weren’t the only country to join the coalition forces alongside the US in the Iraq war. Blair won 3 elections. Johnson didn’t survive one term before being kicked out by his own party. You have your view but I think history will see his short lived term very differently. I have lost count of the number of people calling phone in radio stations over the last few weeks saying they voted for Johnson but would never vote for him again. He lied to everyone from the Queen downwards, consistently. I didn’t agree with the war but the world is certainly a better place without Hussien. It is also a better place without Johnson. |
You love the EU, correct? Most of the transgressions you lay against Boris wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow in France. As for the “good” Blair did, aside from the war which he conned us into (which btw, outweighs everything else to the power of ten). It was his chancellor who fvcked the pension system, screwed up our gold reserves and messed up the future of umpteen health trusts through the public/private partnerships. And oh yes, let’s not forget the Good Friday agreement which let almost every terrorist off the hook whilst leaving squaddies being pursued to this day many of whom are now frail or infirm. But that’s all ok isn’t it? Meanwhile Boris told lies. Far far worse. And to compare Saddam with Boris is just egregiously crass. You are blinkered by your petty loathing. As for the world being a better place without Hussein, it’s a shame we can’t ask the hundreds of thousands who’ve died as a result of that, their opinions, eh? |  |
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:21 - Jul 22 with 2626 views | Sadoldgit |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 16:32 - Jul 22 by Chesham_Saint | You love the EU, correct? Most of the transgressions you lay against Boris wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow in France. As for the “good” Blair did, aside from the war which he conned us into (which btw, outweighs everything else to the power of ten). It was his chancellor who fvcked the pension system, screwed up our gold reserves and messed up the future of umpteen health trusts through the public/private partnerships. And oh yes, let’s not forget the Good Friday agreement which let almost every terrorist off the hook whilst leaving squaddies being pursued to this day many of whom are now frail or infirm. But that’s all ok isn’t it? Meanwhile Boris told lies. Far far worse. And to compare Saddam with Boris is just egregiously crass. You are blinkered by your petty loathing. As for the world being a better place without Hussein, it’s a shame we can’t ask the hundreds of thousands who’ve died as a result of that, their opinions, eh? |
I don’t love the EU, where do you get that from. There is a difference between thinking we are better off in the EU than out and loving the EU. The problems with Johnson went a lot deeper than telling lies. We are in the UK and we are talking about UK politics. What Johnson did here was clearly not acceptable to his own party let alone the rest of the country and has nothing to do with Blair but your loathing of him seems to be far greater than my loathing of Johnson. But for one last time, Blair won three elections, Johnson didn’t even survive a full term after winning his only election. [Post edited 24 Jul 2022 16:53]
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 18:53 - Jul 23 with 2446 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 21:21 - Jul 22 by Sadoldgit | I don’t love the EU, where do you get that from. There is a difference between thinking we are better off in the EU than out and loving the EU. The problems with Johnson went a lot deeper than telling lies. We are in the UK and we are talking about UK politics. What Johnson did here was clearly not acceptable to his own party let alone the rest of the country and has nothing to do with Blair but your loathing of him seems to be far greater than my loathing of Johnson. But for one last time, Blair won three elections, Johnson didn’t even survive a full term after winning his only election. [Post edited 24 Jul 2022 16:53]
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| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 22:01 - Jul 23 with 2381 views | Bridders2 |
| Truss - the Lib Dem anti-monarchist on 18:53 - Jul 23 by Chesham_Saint | And for one last time. Blair’s crimes massively outweigh those of Johnston. |
It's obvious to everyone except blinkered Soppy. |  | |  |
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