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Ashes 2023 16:47 - Jun 8 with 90153 viewsHoopstar

Ah the home Ashes series is almost upon us, my personal favourite sporting event (not down under, that's just generally depressing.) I need something big sporting wise to focus on and quit my worrying about QPR for a while.

Anyone going?

I was at the first day of the World Test Championship at the Oval yesterday. The Aussies looked in depressingly good nick with the bat and their pace attack appears as terrifying as ever.

I think it's going to be an exciting, tough, tense series that'll go down to the wire. I only managed to get tickets to the very final day of the Ashes on 31st July at the Oval, you never know.

I predict...

Crawley to average less than 20 with Duckett getting closer to mid 30s
Brook to really secure his position as an outstanding talent and mainstay of the team
Pope to struggle again~
Root, in what could be his last home Ashes, proving his worth again
Bairstow - haven't a clue which version turns up post broken foot

Broad - an Ashes too far? You'd be mad to write him or Jimmy off.
Robinson to nab Smith at least four times..
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Ashes 2023 on 15:54 - Jul 4 with 2219 viewsNov77

Ashes 2023 on 12:08 - Jul 3 by Nov77

If the Aussies are saying it’s ok to do this, then why doesn’t the wicketkeeper throw down the stumps at the end of every over when the opposing player is walking up the pitch to talk to his partner and appeal for a stumping?

Because it just isn’t done, who wants to see the game played in that way?

It’s underhand, and definitely not in the spirit of the game.

Nonetheless, I don’t think England deserved anything out of the game, it took one miraculous innings from Stokes to get close, in the second innings only one other batter (Duckett) made a contribution.

Aussies gave away 39 extras in the game, we gave away 74, the difference being almost the margin of defeat!
(26 byes given away compared to Aussies 9), not all of that is on Bairstow but it’s clear they have a much better keeper than us.

If we’re going full on bodyline in the next test then there’s no point playing Anderson, might be worth giving Wood a try.
[Post edited 3 Jul 2023 12:10]


Didn’t know this when I posted the above yesterday…..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66097255

We’ve actually scored 15 more runs them overall in the series so far off the bat. The difference is we’ve conceded 60 more extras than them.
[Post edited 4 Jul 2023 15:56]

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Ashes 2023 on 09:07 - Jul 5 with 2021 viewsSouthAfricanRanger

Ashes 2023 on 10:35 - Jul 3 by Rangersw12

Ah bless the runts of the commonwealth sticking up for each other



Very classy.

DonnieR

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Ashes 2023 on 11:23 - Jul 5 with 1963 viewsTheChef

Ashes 2023 on 15:54 - Jul 4 by Nov77

Didn’t know this when I posted the above yesterday…..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66097255

We’ve actually scored 15 more runs them overall in the series so far off the bat. The difference is we’ve conceded 60 more extras than them.
[Post edited 4 Jul 2023 15:56]


And that's where we've been complacent and a bit sloppy - fine margins and all that.

We've got to be a lot tighter in the next three Tests to stand any chance of turning this round. Rumours are that Ali and Woakes will be recalled for Headingley, so should strengthen the batting if nothing else.

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Ashes 2023 on 11:32 - Jul 5 with 1939 viewsdaveB

Woakes, Wood and Ali in for Pope, Tongue and Anderson

Brook has moved up to number 3
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Ashes 2023 on 12:00 - Jul 5 with 1881 viewsTonto

dropping Tongue is a bit weird... he was the only one with any pace at Lords...

Foakes should have come in for Pope.

Why stop now, just when I'm hating it
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Ashes 2023 on 12:13 - Jul 5 with 1857 viewsQPR_John

Ashes 2023 on 11:32 - Jul 5 by daveB

Woakes, Wood and Ali in for Pope, Tongue and Anderson

Brook has moved up to number 3


Would not suggest I know the finer points of the game. But to the untrained eye, thats me, Tongue seemed to be our better bowler.
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Ashes 2023 on 17:25 - Jul 5 with 1753 viewsLimehouseR

A bit worried with Brook at number 3, that's a lot of pressure. The Bus bowlers seem to have sussed him out a bit.
Bringing in Woakes is wise as he can bat a bit and is a decent bowler. But like most I think Foakes should feel hard done by. Bairstow is fantastic if he gets going but that can be a big IF. And he's made a fair few errors behind the stumps.
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Ashes 2023 on 19:46 - Jul 5 with 1705 viewsstowmarketrange

I’m just watching the women’s T20 on sky and we look to have a competitive score first up.
They’ve missed a trick though calling them the Ashes as I thought they’d be called the Washes.
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Ashes 2023 on 19:53 - Jul 5 with 1692 viewsHoopstar

I'm relatively confident that Ben Foakes would be in any other test side - perhaps not the Indian one before Pant's car crash.

It's too big a position to not play your best player in. I'm a fan of Bairstow as a batter but he should not be in that side as wicket keeper. Just costs too many opportunties.

I'm disappointed Tongue was dropped, I'd have liked to see Robinson taken out myself and gone with the extra pace and bounce Tongue wins.

Big game coming up anyway - I'm sure more than three days rest after the Lords 'debacle' wouldn't have been minded.
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Ashes 2023 on 19:54 - Jul 5 with 1691 viewsPhilmyRs

Not against the lineup. We have to win to stand a chance and with Stokes unlikely to bowl and to get Wood in the side and allow him to focus on short bursts, we had to go with the extra bowler. Woakes adds some batting at 8 so probably the best we can do. Not sure why Root isn't coming in at 3 though, that feels a mistake.
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Ashes 2023 on 20:09 - Jul 5 with 1659 viewsflynnbo

Ashes 2023 on 19:46 - Jul 5 by stowmarketrange

I’m just watching the women’s T20 on sky and we look to have a competitive score first up.
They’ve missed a trick though calling them the Ashes as I thought they’d be called the Washes.


Aussies motoring now.
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Ashes 2023 on 20:22 - Jul 5 with 1640 viewsflynnbo

Good fight back by England.
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Ashes 2023 on 08:40 - Jul 6 with 1549 viewsTheChef

Ashes 2023 on 19:53 - Jul 5 by Hoopstar

I'm relatively confident that Ben Foakes would be in any other test side - perhaps not the Indian one before Pant's car crash.

It's too big a position to not play your best player in. I'm a fan of Bairstow as a batter but he should not be in that side as wicket keeper. Just costs too many opportunties.

I'm disappointed Tongue was dropped, I'd have liked to see Robinson taken out myself and gone with the extra pace and bounce Tongue wins.

Big game coming up anyway - I'm sure more than three days rest after the Lords 'debacle' wouldn't have been minded.


For some reason in the last thirty years England have had an issue with selecting wicket keepers; Jack Russell should have played a lot more Tests. It's a specialist role, you pick your best technician.

I mean at Lord's we conceded 74 extras, that's the match right there.

Australia haven't been brilliant but they've been professional while at crucial times we've been sloppy. That's why we're 2-0 down.

Got to be a lot tighter at Headingley or the series is done with two Tests to go.

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Ashes 2023 on 09:44 - Jul 6 with 1511 viewsrobith

I don't really get the Bairstow keeping thing, because his form prior to injury was enough to have him and Foakes. And with the analysis that happens at pro level they can surely see his keeping has been sub par.

Tongue being dropped is odd, would much prefer to bin Robinson and his nude nuts tbh. Wood is positive though, the Aussies seem to struggle with Tongue's extra pace.

Anyway, very excited. Driving to Sheffield on Saturday morning, watch the day's play in the boozer, then early train to Leeds for what should be an epic day 4. Did I mention I now have a cool box with a cheese board lid? Let's have it
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Ashes 2023 on 10:04 - Jul 6 with 1476 viewsCamberleyR

Ashes 2023 on 08:40 - Jul 6 by TheChef

For some reason in the last thirty years England have had an issue with selecting wicket keepers; Jack Russell should have played a lot more Tests. It's a specialist role, you pick your best technician.

I mean at Lord's we conceded 74 extras, that's the match right there.

Australia haven't been brilliant but they've been professional while at crucial times we've been sloppy. That's why we're 2-0 down.

Got to be a lot tighter at Headingley or the series is done with two Tests to go.


Totally agree. Jack Russell only played 54 tests in 10 years. He lost out mainly because between the demise of Ian Botham in the late 80s and the arrival of Freddie Flintoff late 90s, England didn't have a test class all rounder so Stewart would be given the gloves to often balance the side. Stewart though was a far better keeper than Bairstow is.

Russell's and Stewart's averages though were negligible (Stewart when played as a keeper-batsman that is), Russell averaged 27 and Stewart a fraction under 35 (compared to his 46 when just a specialist batsman).

It was ironic that we were one of the worst sides in the world back then and one of our few players of genuine world class often couldn't get in the team.

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Ashes 2023 on 11:00 - Jul 6 with 1395 viewsLoyalitat

Ashes 2023 on 19:53 - Jul 5 by Hoopstar

I'm relatively confident that Ben Foakes would be in any other test side - perhaps not the Indian one before Pant's car crash.

It's too big a position to not play your best player in. I'm a fan of Bairstow as a batter but he should not be in that side as wicket keeper. Just costs too many opportunties.

I'm disappointed Tongue was dropped, I'd have liked to see Robinson taken out myself and gone with the extra pace and bounce Tongue wins.

Big game coming up anyway - I'm sure more than three days rest after the Lords 'debacle' wouldn't have been minded.


Three days' recovery is ridiculous and clearly highlights for me that as much as the ECB and others may claim to cherish the Ashes, it still cannot get in the way of their 16 overs and 4 balls nonsense in August.

Today's test should be starting next week if they really had the players' welfare uppermost in their scheduling, with the test series concluding by the end of the first week of August. For there also to be no county cricket played at all in August just further shows that they want nothing else in the way by way of a possible challenge and another option for many fans whose local county ground will be barely used in the height of summer.
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Ashes 2023 on 11:04 - Jul 6 with 1390 viewseastside_r

Take that you f*cker!
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Ashes 2023 on 12:34 - Jul 6 with 1320 viewsNov77

61-3, Bairstow misses a tough chance to get smith on 8.

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Ashes 2023 on 12:53 - Jul 6 with 1284 viewsNov77

Bairstow drops another much easier one, he’s really costing us now.

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Ashes 2023 on 12:56 - Jul 6 with 1266 viewsw7r

See ya Smithy!
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Ashes 2023 on 12:57 - Jul 6 with 1262 viewsNov77

For all the Aussie slagging of Broad for not walking when he nicked one, smith has just nicked one to the keeper, been given out, and reviewed it!

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Ashes 2023 on 13:09 - Jul 6 with 1214 viewstoboboly

Ashes 2023 on 12:57 - Jul 6 by Nov77

For all the Aussie slagging of Broad for not walking when he nicked one, smith has just nicked one to the keeper, been given out, and reviewed it!


It's one of life's little miracles the Aussie hypocrisy.

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Ashes 2023 on 13:54 - Jul 6 with 1135 viewsTheChef

We don't deserve to win anything if we keep dropping catches.

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Ashes 2023 on 14:49 - Jul 6 with 1082 viewsNov77

Ashes 2023 on 13:54 - Jul 6 by TheChef

We don't deserve to win anything if we keep dropping catches.


13 dropped so far by us in the series

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Ashes 2023 on 14:52 - Jul 6 with 1063 viewsTheChef

Ashes 2023 on 14:49 - Jul 6 by Nov77

13 dropped so far by us in the series


And you wonder why we're losing 2-0.

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