| thoughts on west ham in t'cup 13:55 - Jan 5 with 13339 views | themodfather |
was very excited until 4 injuries v owls , west ham must surely focus on prem survival and clawing back 4 points to get out of drop zone is not easy , likely they rest players, use reserves / development squad?
a cup run is still the dream of many fans , with 9000 QPR tickets sold, new ground etc and i still hope we put out the best 11 we can , our catalogue of cup failures is long, painful and embarrassing . and must end asap imo
getting to the ground is fun i hear as you cannot go thru westfield , how do their security know you are not a shopper? so most have a 15-20 min walk, from stations.
i suppose the weather factor must come in too.
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 03:26 - Jan 7 with 2753 views | thame_hoops |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 00:28 - Jan 7 by CLAREMAN1995 |
Just watched the highlights and pretty much agree with all this post .West Ham very unlucky all night and that idiotic offside call preventing them going up 2 was a joke really.
Not sure that was a penalty for NF either the keeper was already committed what exactly is he supposed to do .
A couple of worries for us ,WH are excellent at the fast break (see Summerville ) and we are really suspect there plus their corners are excellent curving in under the bar another big red flag for us .
Of course they are very poor at defending corners also but we never deliver the correct ball so that might no an issue for them.
We will probably lose but if we score early the crowd could turn on them |
Agree with this and especially the stupid offside and PK. Once it was referred to the var TV for the referee, it was always going to be a penalty. The commentator at the time said there’s no way he can’t give it, which I kind of get. But it should never have got to that stage. |  | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 07:37 - Jan 7 with 2553 views | PlanetHonneywood |
It won't be a classic and the eventual winner won't come from this tie.
Wham! won't want to risk their better players, I suspect we won't either, but it would be nice to go for it at least once in our lifetime!
As usual: the longer it remains nils, the greater our chances, and the first team to score may well see it out. Wham! are under pressure, but they won't want to lose this. |  |
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 08:45 - Jan 7 with 2381 views | derbyhoop |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 22:18 - Jan 6 by Rangersw12 |
If the manager doesn't play the strongest 11 then he should be sacked on the Monday |
But WHICH Manager? |  |
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 10:38 - Jan 7 with 2204 views | themodfather |
i have no issue with hammers, my older bruv followed them , but when you are down you get absolutely poohed on from all sides, offside ? var is really not helping and can the ref over rule them? west ham now 7 points adrift so very up against it. as for sunday i bet they really don't want it, they club, fans or team. i don't think edmund hillary would climb the mountain they need to over come! | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 16:17 - Jan 7 with 2007 views | derbyhoop |
How many of our squad have ambitions of playing in the PL? I'd suggest quite a few.
Well the FA Cup presents a chance to show it. | |
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 16:49 - Jan 7 with 1963 views | 7374Ranger |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 14:10 - Jan 5 by Toast_R |
Didnt we have all this speculation a year ago?
Leicester were awful and concenteating on survival so wont be taking the FA Cup too seriously blah blah bollocks.
We still got panned, so expect much the same. |
This entirely. I was hopeful when the draw was made, but in view of the latest injuries I would be very surprised if there are not wholesale changes on Sunday.
I am expecting changes and as usual, another 3rd round exit. | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 19:05 - Jan 7 with 1836 views | qpr_1968 |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 14:15 - Jan 5 by ted_hendrix |
Our record means nothing It's history and Is irrelevant, our Manager must name his strongest side possible other wise there Is no point In us entering the best competition In the world.
Hopefully Jarrod Bowen has a very bad case of high pressure diarrhea. |
agree....but whatever you do, dont mention our strongest team... | |
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 20:08 - Jan 7 with 1760 views | dmm |
Just read that the actual attendance last night was closer to 34,000 than the 62,429 announced. Wham fans are increasingly not turning up. |  | | |
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 20:15 - Jan 7 with 1748 views | welwynranger |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 21:06 - Jan 6 by Northernr |
Hillsborough one of the few examples where we turned up en masse and got the job done. |
Correct me of I'm wrong.
But I seem to remember their was a couple of thousand at Wembley | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 18:34 - Jan 9 with 1459 views | aston_hoop |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 14:30 - Jan 5 by aston_hoop |
Assuming injuries to all the players rumoured, I'd be going
Nardi
Mbengue
Dunne
Cook
RND
Madsen
Field
Saito
Dembele
Kolli
Kone
As strong as possible, don't think RND will be asked to sit out unless Sheff U really want to recall him to play third fiddle to Burrows and McCallum. A strong and organised team who know each other well against whatever bunch of players West Ham cobble together could be massive. Perfect game for a 25 minute Smyth cameo too (just please, Julien, never start him, it doesn't work). Plus the energy off the bench of Morgan, the know-how of Hayden. We have a huge chance here, let's not blow it.
West Ham fan I know when I asked him about the chances of playing the U21s, he said he hopes so as they are better than the first team. Lets see. Could be a new manager bounce for them by Sunday anyway! |
Turns out being cup-tied isn't even a thing anymore so no excuse not to start RND |  |
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 19:01 - Jan 9 with 1394 views | Loft1979 |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 18:34 - Jan 9 by aston_hoop |
Turns out being cup-tied isn't even a thing anymore so no excuse not to start RND |
I could not begin to predict a line-up for this game. Never mind what the Spam throw out there. For example, would your risk Kolli with Rumarm out? I dont think I would. |  | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 19:44 - Jan 9 with 1324 views | dmm |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 19:01 - Jan 9 by Loft1979 |
I could not begin to predict a line-up for this game. Never mind what the Spam throw out there. For example, would your risk Kolli with Rumarm out? I dont think I would. |
What risk is there in playing Kolli? I'd have thought it was essential to play him. | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 19:54 - Jan 9 with 1277 views | 7374Ranger |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 19:01 - Jan 9 by Loft1979 |
I could not begin to predict a line-up for this game. Never mind what the Spam throw out there. For example, would your risk Kolli with Rumarm out? I dont think I would. |
If not Kolli who else is there? Can we really expect Kone to play the whole game given he is the only other striker QPR have. If there were any other strikers at the club, even in the Development Squad, then they could be used.
The forwards at QPR are Burrell, Kone, Kolli and Frey ( who is on his way out).
Of course, QPR could play with a false striker and have no real hope of scoring. | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 10:36 - Jan 10 with 1083 views | Spen |
Reading a lot of posts on Twitter stating that a lot of our fans have purchased tickets in home end and that the feeling is there could well be a load more than 9,000 QPR in the stadium. | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 22:55 - Jan 10 with 796 views | OregonQPR |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 14:25 - Jan 5 by BexleyHoop |
West Ham are playing Forest Tuesday night which feels like a 6 pointer fixture. I think they are then playing Spuds the week after the cup game, so I think they will rest a few for that.
Rumours that Nuno could get the sack if things do not go well on Tuesday, so that might impact their team for Sunday.
Lots of hope for a 3rd round FA Cup win, but realistically normal service will resume and we lose. Will be a good day out anyway. Early start in West India Quay Weatherspoons then short trip on DLR to Pudding Mill Lane.
They close gates in Westfield so people cannot access the Olympic Park near The Cow pub and send away fans the long way round. I work in Stratford and there is nowhere decent to drink. If you do travel into Stratford then I suggest jumping on the DLR heading to Lewisham and getting off at Pudding Mill Lane (Near Abba Voyage) as easiest way to get to away seating
Expect an hour wait to get back into Stratford after the game. Will be like the old days of trying to get into Upton Park Tube station |
So they will have 3 games in one week? How terrifying. Was in Seattle Tuesday night to watch the Boston Bruins they then played a home game on Thursday against Calgary and a lunchtime game today against the New York Rangers.
Tomorrow morning I am flying from Portland to Boston to see them play an evening game against Pittsburgh which means they have played 4 games in 6 days across 3000 miles and 3 time zones.
We will see 2 further games on Tuesday and Thursday before we head back to Oregon while the team plays in Chicago next Saturday. Footballers really are so soft. | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 08:26 - Jan 11 with 595 views | nix |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 22:55 - Jan 10 by OregonQPR |
So they will have 3 games in one week? How terrifying. Was in Seattle Tuesday night to watch the Boston Bruins they then played a home game on Thursday against Calgary and a lunchtime game today against the New York Rangers.
Tomorrow morning I am flying from Portland to Boston to see them play an evening game against Pittsburgh which means they have played 4 games in 6 days across 3000 miles and 3 time zones.
We will see 2 further games on Tuesday and Thursday before we head back to Oregon while the team plays in Chicago next Saturday. Footballers really are so soft. |
People keep trotting this out. It doesn’t matter what happens in other sports or what used to happen in football in the old days. What matters is what happens to players now under these conditions the way we play Championship foosball now. If players are more likely to get injured then we have to protect them more, not call them wimps or saps.
The number of hamstring injures has doubled in elite football; not just for QPR but in all elite football. It’s now 24% of all injuries. Richarlison for Spurs instance has had three hamstring injuries in the last two seasons, one of which was last night just after the Christmas busy season, go figure.
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/5
https://www.apollov2.com/posts
The second study is obviously a PR article but it is based on all the studies and explains in simple terms why it happens more frequently now.
As fans I think our only contribution is to trust the manager when he is resting our favourite player to trust that maybe he’s got a reason for that. I remember Warbs saying that fast-twitch players (pacy players like wingers and strikers) need more rest than others as they’re more prone to injuries. And unfortunately I do think they’re influenced by fans and probably do read SM to some extent.
I wouldn’t have a problem with Stephan starting with an extra midfielder and bringing on Kolli in the second half for all these reasons. Plus Kolli being injury prone and only just coming back after injury. It’s not being overly cautious or the players being soft, it’s actually protecting your investment and ensuring he will be able to play for the rest of the season and won’t leave us with just Frey or a false nine to partner Kone for the rest of the season. [Post edited 11 Jan 9:54]
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 08:32 - Jan 11 with 563 views | BristolR |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 08:26 - Jan 11 by nix |
People keep trotting this out. It doesn’t matter what happens in other sports or what used to happen in football in the old days. What matters is what happens to players now under these conditions the way we play Championship foosball now. If players are more likely to get injured then we have to protect them more, not call them wimps or saps.
The number of hamstring injures has doubled in elite football; not just for QPR but in all elite football. It’s now 24% of all injuries. Richarlison for Spurs instance has had three hamstring injuries in the last two seasons, one of which was last night just after the Christmas busy season, go figure.
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/5
https://www.apollov2.com/posts
The second study is obviously a PR article but it is based on all the studies and explains in simple terms why it happens more frequently now.
As fans I think our only contribution is to trust the manager when he is resting our favourite player to trust that maybe he’s got a reason for that. I remember Warbs saying that fast-twitch players (pacy players like wingers and strikers) need more rest than others as they’re more prone to injuries. And unfortunately I do think they’re influenced by fans and probably do read SM to some extent.
I wouldn’t have a problem with Stephan starting with an extra midfielder and bringing on Kolli in the second half for all these reasons. Plus Kolli being injury prone and only just coming back after injury. It’s not being overly cautious or the players being soft, it’s actually protecting your investment and ensuring he will be able to play for the rest of the season and won’t leave us with just Frey or a false nine to partner Kone for the rest of the season. [Post edited 11 Jan 9:54]
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Depending on CB availability I’d be happy to see Edwards as sweeper in front of Dunne and Cook/Morrison, with Madsen slightly ahead of him…
Kolli should start and last as long as he can imo
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 08:56 - Jan 11 with 483 views | captainmycaptian |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 08:32 - Jan 11 by BristolR |
Depending on CB availability I’d be happy to see Edwards as sweeper in front of Dunne and Cook/Morrison, with Madsen slightly ahead of him…
Kolli should start and last as long as he can imo
Anyway, a big day , C’MON |
I see what you are highlighting but i do think there are a proportion of sick notes and thespian players out there today. Are you preparing us for a weak team selection of a mix of the dev squad,a couple of local kids of the white city estate and the tea lady at LR ? Because I am not sure the 9k will buy the line that modern footballers have it tougher. They have better medical, diet, living conditions (due to wages ) and generally dont smoke or drink like the yesterday players. They may play more football? but I dont think they play as tougher games remember when you were allowed to really tackle when it was a art to win the ball firmly but fairly. [Post edited 11 Jan 10:43]
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 09:03 - Jan 11 with 461 views | captainmycaptian |
Saying that the kids of thebwhite city could put a greyhound to shame and the tea lady at LR is a midfield general with a crunching tackle so you never know | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 09:05 - Jan 11 with 455 views | MrSheen |
It might be a spoof, but my son forwarded what looked like a statement from West Ham that there were 2,405 tickets left for sale at 3pm yesterday, imploring home fans to buy them to keep them away from Western invaders, quoting social media estimates that 6,000 have bought in home areas. Seems a bit suspect, unless a high percentage of crowds there are always first time visitors.
Just looked on Ticketmaster, the back six rows in a few of the side blocks left, maybe 1,000 now. [Post edited 11 Jan 9:20]
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 09:09 - Jan 11 with 448 views | captainmycaptian |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 18:58 - Jan 5 by RuislipHoop |
Play the Development squad,we are not going to win the Cup,we don’t want to lose anymore first teamers to injury and by doing that you give the first team squad 2 weeks off before we play Stoke which is a much more important game. |
2 weeks off for what the mighty important crunch game at stoke ? Its beem shown that it makes little or know difference and can hinder a team. Players need to play not. Part of it is being up for it passion and the cup should inspire that. The chance of another fa cup round against a Premier club at home even we could get chelsea at home and give them a French farmers welcome. Either way we could still go out and lose to stoke | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 09:31 - Jan 11 with 381 views | nix |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 08:56 - Jan 11 by captainmycaptian |
I see what you are highlighting but i do think there are a proportion of sick notes and thespian players out there today. Are you preparing us for a weak team selection of a mix of the dev squad,a couple of local kids of the white city estate and the tea lady at LR ? Because I am not sure the 9k will buy the line that modern footballers have it tougher. They have better medical, diet, living conditions (due to wages ) and generally dont smoke or drink like the yesterday players. They may play more football? but I dont think they play as tougher games remember when you were allowed to really tackle when it was a art to win the ball firmly but fairly. [Post edited 11 Jan 10:43]
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Usual straw man.
Me saying that we shouldn’t flog players to death and you can’t compare modern football to other sports or football in the 70s does not mean I think we should play the development squad. If I wanted to say that, I’m perfectly capable of saying it.
What I actually said, and not what you guessed I said or thought was some hidden meaning was I wouldn’t start Kolli necessarily. Not that I would play our entire second string. Dembele and Saito for instance haven’t been flogged to death at all, they’ve had plenty of opportunities to start in the second half, miss matches, come off early etc.so no problem with starting them. In fact the only players we have probably played most matches are Dunne, Burrell and Madsen. Of those three Burrell is out and IMO was overplayed, Dunne in his current role is not probably sprinting too much and we’ve now got Ronnie who can spread the load and Madsen. Madsen is my biggest concern as we’ve not got a replacement for him and he does work really hard. But maybe not sprinting flat out like Burrell.
Kolli as a forward and our only real kind of replacement for Burrell is someone I’d protect too. I’m not saying not play even him, I’m saying maybe don’t start him and bring him on when the defence is tiring. That’s it. | | | |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 09:47 - Jan 11 with 339 views | nix |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 09:09 - Jan 11 by captainmycaptian |
2 weeks off for what the mighty important crunch game at stoke ? Its beem shown that it makes little or know difference and can hinder a team. Players need to play not. Part of it is being up for it passion and the cup should inspire that. The chance of another fa cup round against a Premier club at home even we could get chelsea at home and give them a French farmers welcome. Either way we could still go out and lose to stoke |
Passion does not protect your hamstrings, nor does eating healthy food, seeing a club doctor or being paid well.
If you’re coming back from previous injuries and that makes a difference to your risk of future injuries and playing less minutes helps with that, then that’s a consideration.
And if you get an injury today you’re not missing the Stoke match you’re missing at least a month and if it’s a hamstring, then two to three months. [Post edited 11 Jan 9:50]
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 10:53 - Jan 11 with 196 views | captainmycaptian |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 09:31 - Jan 11 by nix |
Usual straw man.
Me saying that we shouldn’t flog players to death and you can’t compare modern football to other sports or football in the 70s does not mean I think we should play the development squad. If I wanted to say that, I’m perfectly capable of saying it.
What I actually said, and not what you guessed I said or thought was some hidden meaning was I wouldn’t start Kolli necessarily. Not that I would play our entire second string. Dembele and Saito for instance haven’t been flogged to death at all, they’ve had plenty of opportunities to start in the second half, miss matches, come off early etc.so no problem with starting them. In fact the only players we have probably played most matches are Dunne, Burrell and Madsen. Of those three Burrell is out and IMO was overplayed, Dunne in his current role is not probably sprinting too much and we’ve now got Ronnie who can spread the load and Madsen. Madsen is my biggest concern as we’ve not got a replacement for him and he does work really hard. But maybe not sprinting flat out like Burrell.
Kolli as a forward and our only real kind of replacement for Burrell is someone I’d protect too. I’m not saying not play even him, I’m saying maybe don’t start him and bring him on when the defence is tiring. That’s it. |
I would say I accept that players need rest by why the cup games rest and rotate for the league games. Which i understand we did at the Norwich game ? Yes some players are better as subs Smyth ect by why rest for the cup games. Also if you think improvement in medical technology in dealing with and preventing injuries you clearly have been lucky and not seen the vast steps that the health service have made in this country let alone at a football club that will send all players private. There is a time and place to.rest players and that might be at half time today if we getting spanked but start with your best end off.
Ps I that reply was for another post fat fingers small phone !!! Maybe I need 2 weeks off !! [Post edited 11 Jan 10:55]
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| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 10:56 - Jan 11 with 185 views | captainmycaptian |
| thoughts on west ham in t'cup on 18:58 - Jan 5 by RuislipHoop |
Play the Development squad,we are not going to win the Cup,we don’t want to lose anymore first teamers to injury and by doing that you give the first team squad 2 weeks off before we play Stoke which is a much more important game. |
This was the post in question bristol might make more sense either way of to rest in case I get injured prediction rangers to play well surprised us all and it to go to penalties.have a great day the 9k that got tickets [Post edited 11 Jan 10:58]
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