| Lets look forward to the Championship 21:14 - Mar 3 with 4200 views | grumpy |
Win,Lose or Draw against Leicester I'm not sure I care.
Parachute Payment.
The Prospect of not losing most of the time.
Good old fashioned clubs to play,
No VAR.
3pm Kick offs.
More Games.
Cheaper Games.
Hopefully more young talent given a chance.
Not seeing the same teams winning all the time.
Good clear out of who wants to be here and those that don't.
Not so bad is it?
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 21:23 - Mar 3 with 3387 views | mushinexile |
Always look on the bright side of death... |  |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 21:31 - Mar 3 with 3364 views | Newdawn2014 |
please football gods can we beat Leicester tomorrow ? | | | |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:07 - Mar 3 with 3316 views | sledger |
been saying this for ages | | | |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:26 - Mar 3 with 3300 views | Southamptonfan |
New grounds to visit. Passionate support from proper fans, like that of Grimsby the other night. No more tourists or away fans in the home end. Some cheaper tickets and yes Saturday 3pm kick offs. We might win a few games.
My worry is that there will be a lot of turmoil. Ward-Prowse, Walker-Peters and Lavia will leave. Most of our poor players will stay put on their big money, but won't fancy the championship. Mara and Armstrong will be our strikers. Our board will no doubt appoint the wrong manager (some Swedish second division manager with potential). The championship is good if you are doing well and winning games, with the chance of promotion. It's f@cking depressing if you arn't doing well and losing to Luton and Rotherham. Some games arn't very exciting. Some matches will be played in front of 20,000, with a poor away following. [Post edited 3 Mar 2023 22:28]
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:32 - Mar 3 with 3294 views | SalisburySaint |
Unfortunately judging by West Brom this season it will be loads of Friday and Monday night games, and not many Saturday 3pm fixtures |  | | |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:50 - Mar 3 with 3266 views | 1ASIN12 |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:32 - Mar 3 by SalisburySaint |
Unfortunately judging by West Brom this season it will be loads of Friday and Monday night games, and not many Saturday 3pm fixtures |
Also the end of the £30 ticket cap for away fans . | | | |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:53 - Mar 3 with 3259 views | Southamptonfan |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:50 - Mar 3 by 1ASIN12 |
Also the end of the £30 ticket cap for away fans . |
Some games are cheaper, some are a bit more (£35). | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 07:55 - Mar 4 with 3082 views | kernow |
At this rate Saints will drop through the Championship like a burning B52. | | | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 07:56 - Mar 4 with 3081 views | dwayne_dibley |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 21:23 - Mar 3 by mushinexile |
Always look on the bright side of death... |
I do miss Terry's new books |  |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 08:05 - Mar 4 with 3060 views | saintwizzler |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 22:32 - Mar 3 by SalisburySaint |
Unfortunately judging by West Brom this season it will be loads of Friday and Monday night games, and not many Saturday 3pm fixtures |
This.
Games are frequently moved.
Let’s do League 1 again.
What great days. |  |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 09:12 - Mar 4 with 3009 views | dwayne_dibley |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 08:05 - Mar 4 by saintwizzler |
This.
Games are frequently moved.
Let’s do League 1 again.
What great days. |
Torquay Supporters Club was very welcoming and CIU. I want to see if the old guy on the door is still there from the last time we played them | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:56 - Mar 4 with 2898 views | dirk_doone |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 08:05 - Mar 4 by saintwizzler |
This.
Games are frequently moved.
Let’s do League 1 again.
What great days. |
Then League Two?
We've been in the top tier for most of my lifetime and we have one of the 20 biggest fanbases in the league so that's where we belong. Just giving up and saying let's take an easier option is a bit pathetic. Fans of teams that have done that, like Derby and Bolton, certainly regret it.
The Championship is full of stagnating football clubs, like Stoke, Birmingham and Hull that are desperate to get promoted out of it but fear they'll end up like Derby. Their fans are certainly no happier than Premier League fans. Right now fans of clubs like Brighton and Brentford are loving being in the top flight and so did we from 2012 to 2016, when we were doing well.
For those who want lower league football, Eastleigh is always there as an option. [Post edited 4 Mar 2023 12:05]
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 15:22 - Mar 4 with 2731 views | grumpy |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:56 - Mar 4 by dirk_doone |
Then League Two?
We've been in the top tier for most of my lifetime and we have one of the 20 biggest fanbases in the league so that's where we belong. Just giving up and saying let's take an easier option is a bit pathetic. Fans of teams that have done that, like Derby and Bolton, certainly regret it.
The Championship is full of stagnating football clubs, like Stoke, Birmingham and Hull that are desperate to get promoted out of it but fear they'll end up like Derby. Their fans are certainly no happier than Premier League fans. Right now fans of clubs like Brighton and Brentford are loving being in the top flight and so did we from 2012 to 2016, when we were doing well.
For those who want lower league football, Eastleigh is always there as an option. [Post edited 4 Mar 2023 12:05]
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I don't want relegation but its what we deserve.
3 Managers in 1 season says it all.
Championship football is not a disaster if you learn from your mistakes in the Premiership and come back stronger.
How can you enjoy paying Premiership prices and being beaten so often ?
You're supposed to be enjoying matchdays not coming away frustrated and depressed most of the time.
I would like to see more of our own youth being given a chance which doesn't appear to happen much these days.
Brighton and Brentford will be enjoying themselves,like we have done but they will never keep it up.
Bournemouth look like coming down with us,Pompey when they get their act together will get promoted, Home and Away there's 4 games with a bit of edge.
At the end of the day,responsible ownership and finance is the answer. | | | |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 10:45 - Mar 6 with 2385 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:56 - Mar 4 by dirk_doone |
Then League Two?
We've been in the top tier for most of my lifetime and we have one of the 20 biggest fanbases in the league so that's where we belong. Just giving up and saying let's take an easier option is a bit pathetic. Fans of teams that have done that, like Derby and Bolton, certainly regret it.
The Championship is full of stagnating football clubs, like Stoke, Birmingham and Hull that are desperate to get promoted out of it but fear they'll end up like Derby. Their fans are certainly no happier than Premier League fans. Right now fans of clubs like Brighton and Brentford are loving being in the top flight and so did we from 2012 to 2016, when we were doing well.
For those who want lower league football, Eastleigh is always there as an option. [Post edited 4 Mar 2023 12:05]
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Are we really one of the 20 biggest fan bases in League football? There would seem to be quiet a few clubs in the lower leagues like Boro, Sunderland, Sheff Utd/Wed, Ipswich, Norwich, Derby, etc who have biger fanbases than us.
Boro got over 30k for a game against Wigan recently and Derby had a crowd of over 27k for a league 1 game against Shrewsbury on Saturday and I can't see us getting anywhere near that number in those divisions. |  |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:02 - Mar 6 with 2363 views | PatfromPoole |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 10:45 - Mar 6 by saints__fan__73 |
Are we really one of the 20 biggest fan bases in League football? There would seem to be quiet a few clubs in the lower leagues like Boro, Sunderland, Sheff Utd/Wed, Ipswich, Norwich, Derby, etc who have biger fanbases than us.
Boro got over 30k for a game against Wigan recently and Derby had a crowd of over 27k for a league 1 game against Shrewsbury on Saturday and I can't see us getting anywhere near that number in those divisions. |
I think we regularly had crowds of over 30,000 in the Championship and League 1 last time we were in them.
Exciting, attacking football will get the crowds in.
I know some on here like to slate Saints fans as always being against the club, which is unfair. They are not mugs. |  |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:32 - Mar 6 with 2334 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:02 - Mar 6 by PatfromPoole |
I think we regularly had crowds of over 30,000 in the Championship and League 1 last time we were in them.
Exciting, attacking football will get the crowds in.
I know some on here like to slate Saints fans as always being against the club, which is unfair. They are not mugs. |
The average attendance in our years in the lower leagues was rarely that.
In 08/09 our average crowd in the Championship was 17k.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-southampton/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/ | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:38 - Mar 6 with 2324 views | PatfromPoole |
Well, the return of Lowe to decimate the club was largely responsible for that. | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:54 - Mar 6 with 2300 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:38 - Mar 6 by PatfromPoole |
Well, the return of Lowe to decimate the club was largely responsible for that. |
Don't you mean when Mickey 'Saints Go' Wilde bankrupted the club in an ill-fated promotion to the PL push?
Wilde was 100% responsible for relegation from the Championship/admin, by the time Lowe returned we were already down. | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 12:09 - Mar 6 with 2292 views | PatfromPoole |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 11:54 - Mar 6 by saints__fan__73 |
Don't you mean when Mickey 'Saints Go' Wilde bankrupted the club in an ill-fated promotion to the PL push?
Wilde was 100% responsible for relegation from the Championship/admin, by the time Lowe returned we were already down. |
Well, no.
Lowe decided not to keep Nigel Pearson on as manager, which was his first utterly disastrous move.
The next was to get those two hapless Dutch fools in. That was up there with Ankersen appointing Nathan Jones.
Lee Holmes really was the next Arjen Robben, ja? | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 13:09 - Mar 6 with 2256 views | SaintNick |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 12:09 - Mar 6 by PatfromPoole |
Well, no.
Lowe decided not to keep Nigel Pearson on as manager, which was his first utterly disastrous move.
The next was to get those two hapless Dutch fools in. That was up there with Ankersen appointing Nathan Jones.
Lee Holmes really was the next Arjen Robben, ja? |
It is not often I agree with saints fan 73, but he is right here, when Lowe arrived back at the club in 2008 after two years away, he returned to a club that was on the verge of bankruptcy.It had players such as stern John and Jason Euell on silly money, we couldnt pay our bills
Firstly with Nigel Pearson, this wasnt a case of getting rid of him, Lowe had to strip out big wage earners including the manager, we could not afford him, from his point of view Pearson knew the financial situation, he didn't want the job, there was no awkward conversations, Pearson dindn't want to put his reputation on the line as he knew he would be managing basically a youth team with the odd journeyman professional.
Pat you call Portvliet a hapless fool , he would probably ask you how many International caps you have got and how many World Cup finals you have played in, he has made a decent living in Holland managing Dutch second tier clubs, so was no hapless fool, he was a good man for the job , given that the job was managing youngsters many of whom would not go on to anything above League One level.
In truth Pearson's record was not that great 14 League games played, only 3 wins, 7 draws and 4 defeats, so 16 points from 14 games, not a great return, Poortvliet managed 38 points from 32 games, you do the maths for the points per game ratio.
But it is all about perception, the perception is Poortvliet was a hapless fool, but he had a better record than Pearson, who basically had to win his last game to keep us up.
Lowe got the blame for Saints relegation, in truth he did well to keep the club out of administration until March 2008, as we know now the financial situation was dire and not of Lowe's making, but it suited the agenda to blame it all on him |  |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 13:31 - Mar 6 with 2241 views | PatfromPoole |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 13:09 - Mar 6 by SaintNick |
It is not often I agree with saints fan 73, but he is right here, when Lowe arrived back at the club in 2008 after two years away, he returned to a club that was on the verge of bankruptcy.It had players such as stern John and Jason Euell on silly money, we couldnt pay our bills
Firstly with Nigel Pearson, this wasnt a case of getting rid of him, Lowe had to strip out big wage earners including the manager, we could not afford him, from his point of view Pearson knew the financial situation, he didn't want the job, there was no awkward conversations, Pearson dindn't want to put his reputation on the line as he knew he would be managing basically a youth team with the odd journeyman professional.
Pat you call Portvliet a hapless fool , he would probably ask you how many International caps you have got and how many World Cup finals you have played in, he has made a decent living in Holland managing Dutch second tier clubs, so was no hapless fool, he was a good man for the job , given that the job was managing youngsters many of whom would not go on to anything above League One level.
In truth Pearson's record was not that great 14 League games played, only 3 wins, 7 draws and 4 defeats, so 16 points from 14 games, not a great return, Poortvliet managed 38 points from 32 games, you do the maths for the points per game ratio.
But it is all about perception, the perception is Poortvliet was a hapless fool, but he had a better record than Pearson, who basically had to win his last game to keep us up.
Lowe got the blame for Saints relegation, in truth he did well to keep the club out of administration until March 2008, as we know now the financial situation was dire and not of Lowe's making, but it suited the agenda to blame it all on him |
I think you should compare the careers of Nigel Pearson and Jan Poortvliet after they both left Saints.
Day and night.
The Dutch second tier is equivalent to the second division in Scotland.
There was clearly money available as Lowe went and spent £1 million on Schneiderlin.
We weren’t forced to play young players. Experienced managers like Warnock have showed at a number of clubs you can be competitive in the Championship on a shoestring budget. As usual though, Lowe thought he knew best and look where it got us. | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 13:43 - Mar 6 with 2235 views | SaintNick |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 13:31 - Mar 6 by PatfromPoole |
I think you should compare the careers of Nigel Pearson and Jan Poortvliet after they both left Saints.
Day and night.
The Dutch second tier is equivalent to the second division in Scotland.
There was clearly money available as Lowe went and spent £1 million on Schneiderlin.
We weren’t forced to play young players. Experienced managers like Warnock have showed at a number of clubs you can be competitive in the Championship on a shoestring budget. As usual though, Lowe thought he knew best and look where it got us. |
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I dont really care about what Pearson did before or after Saints, he had a worse record than Portvliet at St Mary's.
There was money available it was a case of how we spent it, but ultimately spending £1 million for an 18 year old wasn't breaking the bank
Tell me how we werent forced to play youngsters ? Where was the money to buy players and more to the point pay them the money they could get elsewhere, it was our monthly outgoings that were costing us .
We didn't have a shoestring budget, we had no budget, we were making a loss on a weekly basis, we were on the verge of administration in July when Lowe came back, he was firefighting from day one.
Lowe wasn't conducting some sort of experiment to show that he could play youngsters, he was going cap in hand to the bank on a weekly basis to let us stay in business, this was shown when we went into administration in March 2008, there is all the evidence that you need why we couldnt afford even a Pearson or a Warnock to show us they could be competitive on a shoestring.
I had meetings with Lowe, I had a meeting with Mark Fry the administrator on the day after we went into administration, he laid bare the issues that Lowe had worked under.
We were stony broke end of story whatever way people want to paint it. | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 14:06 - Mar 6 with 2190 views | PatfromPoole |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 13:43 - Mar 6 by SaintNick |
Pat
I dont really care about what Pearson did before or after Saints, he had a worse record than Portvliet at St Mary's.
There was money available it was a case of how we spent it, but ultimately spending £1 million for an 18 year old wasn't breaking the bank
Tell me how we werent forced to play youngsters ? Where was the money to buy players and more to the point pay them the money they could get elsewhere, it was our monthly outgoings that were costing us .
We didn't have a shoestring budget, we had no budget, we were making a loss on a weekly basis, we were on the verge of administration in July when Lowe came back, he was firefighting from day one.
Lowe wasn't conducting some sort of experiment to show that he could play youngsters, he was going cap in hand to the bank on a weekly basis to let us stay in business, this was shown when we went into administration in March 2008, there is all the evidence that you need why we couldnt afford even a Pearson or a Warnock to show us they could be competitive on a shoestring.
I had meetings with Lowe, I had a meeting with Mark Fry the administrator on the day after we went into administration, he laid bare the issues that Lowe had worked under.
We were stony broke end of story whatever way people want to paint it. |
And this is where you again add less weight to your argument with incorrect statistics.
Poortvliet's record in League games:
Played 28; won 6, drew 8, lost 14
Points 26
With just 1 home win, which would largely account for the crowds SF73 was alluding to.
Pearson's record in League games:
Played 14; won 3, drew 7, lost 4
Points 16
If you are seriously trying to claim that Poortvliet was a better manager at Saints than Pearson, then it's just another misguided opinion, as it's certainly not based on fact. | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 14:20 - Mar 6 with 2173 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 14:06 - Mar 6 by PatfromPoole |
And this is where you again add less weight to your argument with incorrect statistics.
Poortvliet's record in League games:
Played 28; won 6, drew 8, lost 14
Points 26
With just 1 home win, which would largely account for the crowds SF73 was alluding to.
Pearson's record in League games:
Played 14; won 3, drew 7, lost 4
Points 16
If you are seriously trying to claim that Poortvliet was a better manager at Saints than Pearson, then it's just another misguided opinion, as it's certainly not based on fact. |
Trying to blame our Championship relegation on Lowe is ludicrous. | |
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| Lets look forward to the Championship on 14:38 - Mar 6 with 2152 views | PatfromPoole |
| Lets look forward to the Championship on 14:20 - Mar 6 by saints__fan__73 |
Trying to blame our Championship relegation on Lowe is ludicrous. |
It really isn’t.
We wouldn’t have been there in the first place if it wasn’t for his mismanagement.
And a good manager could have kept that young side up in the Championship.
HLowe chose a manager without a clue about The Championship. The number of international caps he had as a player in Holland is totally irrelevant. | |
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