| Question 10:47 - Apr 11 with 3124 views | SaintNick |
Given that Ralph has lead us in his 3 full seasons to 16th, 11th, 15th & this season somewhere similar, as well as an FA Cup semi and 1/4 final and that this is about where we sit in the Premier league pyramid, what do we honestly expect ?
So who could do better than Ralph given the situation we are in ? |  |
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| Question on 18:01 - Apr 11 with 1022 views | TripleNiemi |
| Question on 13:20 - Apr 11 by PatfromPoole |
I like Ralph, but these occasional heavy defeats are an increasingly big blot against his name.
I’m still also pissed off about the team selection for the Cup quarter-final.
I see little point in lauding him for progress in Cup competitions when we throw it away by leaving our top strikers on the bench when it really counts.
He just doesn’t strike me as having the aura of a winner.
That said, our performance at Tottenham away this season was as good as you will ever see. And it wasn’t all that long ago.
I’m a little torn, in truth. |
Have to say it is wearing darn thin now but i am still not in the Ralph out camp whereas with Puel i wanted him gone for the absolute disregard / fcuk ups he made with the Europa debacle.
If he is here next year and būggers about with the Cups then that will be it for me. Clubs like us have no chance of winning the league so play your strongest.....(rinse and repeat) |  |
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| Question on 18:24 - Apr 11 with 1001 views | WestEndBoy |
What situation are we in? |  | | |
| Question on 18:58 - Apr 11 with 964 views | 1teeminants |
What about the time when when we finished top 8 four years running ? Saints fans hardly ever mention these times which I find really weird. I’m constantly banging the Saints drum on message boards and forums. other fans of other clubs think I’m making it up and they don’t believe it even happened as everyone sees us as cannon fodder. Why don’t we ever big ourselves up ? Show me a team of our size that’s has achieved this in recent years.
We’ve done it before and we can do it again with decent recruitment and I’m not talking about spending loads because we all know that won’t happen. The Mane’s ,van dijks, Tadic’s ,Pelle’s of the world are still out there somewhere. I’m sick of even our own fans thinking the best we can hope for is 15 th 16 th , |  |
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| Question on 20:24 - Apr 11 with 888 views | kingolaf |
I like the way we’re run.
I don’t rate the manager.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive. |  | | |
| Question on 21:20 - Apr 11 with 844 views | grumpy |
The dilemma a lot of Saints fans have, myself included, is that Ralph is such a likeable guy, we want him to do well.
But to lose 2 games at home by 9-0 and 6-0 is shocking.
Its humiliating for the fans who have paid good money to see their team turn in performances like that, particularly at home. |  | | |
| Question on 21:31 - Apr 11 with 834 views | A1079 |
| Question on 21:20 - Apr 11 by grumpy |
The dilemma a lot of Saints fans have, myself included, is that Ralph is such a likeable guy, we want him to do well.
But to lose 2 games at home by 9-0 and 6-0 is shocking.
Its humiliating for the fans who have paid good money to see their team turn in performances like that, particularly at home. |
Do you Grumpy that is more or less how I feel.
I do like Ralph. I would like to have seen him do well and if he stays I still want him to, but my patience has just about run out with these wide fluctuations in fortune. We fans feel the humiliation of 2 x 9-0 defeats and this 6-0 defeat because that had 9-0 written all over it again. Then there is next season - if Ralph stays and however well we do, everyone will be waiting and expecting another fall and another humiliating defeat - that feeling of not if, but when. But, I go back to my other threads and responses. What about the players, what makes them do what they do when they should know what to do when things are not going well? | | | |
| Question on 02:46 - Apr 12 with 732 views | sledger |
I think most people except our place in the premier league it’s the gutless performances,if I had worked like they did Saturday I would be signing on the following week | | | |
| Question on 07:20 - Apr 12 with 674 views | Berber |
| Question on 14:19 - Apr 11 by SaintNick |
With respect Steve Cooper of Forest has not got a great track record, his only experience in managing club sides has been two years at Swansea , he got them to the play off final in the first season and again in his second season but lost both times.
There was criticism of his style of play and Swansea's poor form towards the end of the season, as again they scraped into the play offs .
Nottingham Forest have been decidedly average for most of the season, but 5 straight wins has lifted them up the table from also rans a few weeks ago.
So has a manager with just 3 seasons experience in the Championship got what it takes ?
if we appointed him there would be uproar |
I agree, we expect any change in manager to get better results. Getting someone like Cooper would be a huge gamble, with little evidence of any upside. |  |
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| Question on 07:59 - Apr 12 with 657 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Question on 11:29 - Apr 11 by SaintNick |
You have hit the nail on the head, Puel's team was actually quite entertaining at times, people forget 3-0 at West Ham, 3-1 at Bournemouth, 4-0 at Sunderaln that season and only remember the 1-0 wins and bore draws.
I said at the time Puel lost Fonte to petulance and Van Dijk to injury in the January and had to revamp the way we played, protecting the two central defenders who had no pace. |
I distinctly recall all that constant, frustrating sideways passing across the back 4 with Puel. It was so boring. Life is way too short to watch shit like that every game and I would most likely have given up watching Saints to the extent I do if Puel and his “possibilities” had stayed.
There have been some reasoned comments on Ralph in this thread which is good as I’m also conflicted as he’s clearly a nice bloke but makes some real howlers.
Overall though, I’d prefer the cavalier Ralph era to the puritan Puel. In short, be careful what you wish for as even the likes of Arsenal and Manc u have shown that replacing a manager can be very, very tricky and set a club back years. |  |
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| Question on 09:00 - Apr 12 with 620 views | saintwizzler |
| Question on 07:59 - Apr 12 by Chesham_Saint |
I distinctly recall all that constant, frustrating sideways passing across the back 4 with Puel. It was so boring. Life is way too short to watch shit like that every game and I would most likely have given up watching Saints to the extent I do if Puel and his “possibilities” had stayed.
There have been some reasoned comments on Ralph in this thread which is good as I’m also conflicted as he’s clearly a nice bloke but makes some real howlers.
Overall though, I’d prefer the cavalier Ralph era to the puritan Puel. In short, be careful what you wish for as even the likes of Arsenal and Manc u have shown that replacing a manager can be very, very tricky and set a club back years. |
Puel is on 1.38 Points Per Game for Southampton Football Club
Hassenhüttl on 1.32, so little different.
Man Utd sacked Mourinho even though he has the second best PPG behind Ferguson for them.
Puel and Mourinho’s football was classed as defensive and/or boring.
I would say that Puel and Ferguson had better quality players though. |  |
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| Question on 09:12 - Apr 12 with 613 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Question on 20:24 - Apr 11 by kingolaf |
I like the way we’re run.
I don’t rate the manager.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive. |
I don't like the way we're run.
I rate the manager. |  |
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| Question on 09:42 - Apr 12 with 588 views | PatfromPoole |
| Question on 09:00 - Apr 12 by saintwizzler |
Puel is on 1.38 Points Per Game for Southampton Football Club
Hassenhüttl on 1.32, so little different.
Man Utd sacked Mourinho even though he has the second best PPG behind Ferguson for them.
Puel and Mourinho’s football was classed as defensive and/or boring.
I would say that Puel and Ferguson had better quality players though. |
Momentum counts for a lot in football.
Puel inherited a side which had peaked.
We had also just replaced Mane with Redderz, and Pelle with Charlie Austin, two huge downgrades.
Shame how it turned out with Puel, he was so nearly a history-maker. |  |
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| Question on 09:48 - Apr 12 with 582 views | saints__fan__73 |
We managed less home wins in Puel's season than Hull who were relegated. | |
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| Question on 10:08 - Apr 12 with 568 views | MytchettSaint |
| Question on 09:48 - Apr 12 by saints__fan__73 |
We managed less home wins in Puel's season than Hull who were relegated. |
We also didn’t score at home for the last 5 home games. But also most realised we’d had to set up defensively as we’d lost fonte and VVD so were protecting a weak defence.
Ralph on the other hand presided over our record number of consecutive defeats last season I think?
As dull as the football was under Puel I’d had given him until the following Christmas. When you look at how much slack Ralph has been given Puel looks a little hard done by now.
As managers, they are completely polar opposites in terms of personality and football philosophy. |  |
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| Question on 11:03 - Apr 12 with 534 views | saintwizzler |
| Question on 10:08 - Apr 12 by MytchettSaint |
We also didn’t score at home for the last 5 home games. But also most realised we’d had to set up defensively as we’d lost fonte and VVD so were protecting a weak defence.
Ralph on the other hand presided over our record number of consecutive defeats last season I think?
As dull as the football was under Puel I’d had given him until the following Christmas. When you look at how much slack Ralph has been given Puel looks a little hard done by now.
As managers, they are completely polar opposites in terms of personality and football philosophy. |
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