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With you on this one bud,one of our better talented players,now will help another team - but if he feels that he is not wanted - would anyone want to stay??? - another unnecessary move , in my opinion ......... let's hope RM .... will mould an exciting team - for all our fans to be proud of , if we have any players left that is ?
I apologise, in my ageing years and with my fading memory, I do not recall stating that Smallbone was rubbish.
However, it may be that your forensic investigation into my historic posts is up with there with SF73’s fanatical pursuit of Saint Nick, in which case I welcome you as a fully fledged disciple.
We shall have to agree to disagree on Perraud, sir.
Carrick is a fine manager and will have Boro sorted soon enough. On that I am more than happy for you to quote me.
Was at fault for the Plymouth goal from memory? Could be totally wrong of course, but def to blame for one we've conceded, and we hve inevery game so far and can't see that changing much in th enear future! Another experienced player gone
Manning 2 assists on Saturday, Perraud is utter dogsh!t
OK, so if Perraud's this quality PL left back everyone seems to think he is, why have no PL clubs shown even an interest in him?, and then why's he's gone to an average French club in the 5th ranked European league? Possibly cos he's not PL level?, poor last season in a poor defence, would've been fine in the Championship this season, but if he doesn't want to be here, there's the door son.
As for Manning, yes he looks to be struggling defensively but we're only 4 games in, early days. He got as many assists v QPR on Saturday as Perraud got in 30 games last season so that's a positive.
Everyone I've spoken to is disappointed Perraud is leaving.
I am not sure anyone said he was an amazing PL left back Just that he is better than Manning and also selling him leaves us very short
Many have said he's a quality PL defender, someone even said he'd be a regular in many PL sides. I think that's pie in the sky, but lets say I'm wrong.
Given that the asking price is a cheap as chips 10m euros(half a Tall Paul), why weren't many/any PL clubs queued round the block to to buy him? It's a simple question, but nobody's answered it.
Many have said he's a quality PL defender, someone even said he'd be a regular in many PL sides. I think that's pie in the sky, but lets say I'm wrong.
Given that the asking price is a cheap as chips 10m euros(half a Tall Paul), why weren't many/any PL clubs queued round the block to to buy him? It's a simple question, but nobody's answered it.
I'll tell you. Its because he was in a club with 3 managers in a season ,2 of which hadn't a clue. The present one played him CB against Gillingham. No wonder hes gone back to Nice ,and good luck to him.
Many have said he's a quality PL defender, someone even said he'd be a regular in many PL sides. I think that's pie in the sky, but lets say I'm wrong.
Given that the asking price is a cheap as chips 10m euros(half a Tall Paul), why weren't many/any PL clubs queued round the block to to buy him? It's a simple question, but nobody's answered it.
Think he was a bit under the radar as a player as he wasn’t a showy full-back like someone like Gareth Bale.
A really solid player though. Very tenacious in the tackle, alas his crossing could have been better.
That 3-3 draw at the Emirates, he did a really superb job against Saka.
He is a much better defender than Manning, who is slow, but is clearly inexplicably one of the new manager’s favourites.
I'll tell you. Its because he was in a club with 3 managers in a season ,2 of which hadn't a clue. The present one played him CB against Gillingham. No wonder hes gone back to Nice ,and good luck to him.
Wasn't expecting that to be the answer. Nothing to do with him not being PL standard, or the other 20 PL clubs thinking likewise.
Many have said he's a quality PL defender, someone even said he'd be a regular in many PL sides. I think that's pie in the sky, but lets say I'm wrong.
Given that the asking price is a cheap as chips 10m euros(half a Tall Paul), why weren't many/any PL clubs queued round the block to to buy him? It's a simple question, but nobody's answered it.
Think maybe lower end PL defender, hasn't looked a world beater at Championship level so far really tbh Doesn't really matter what I think, doesn't look like any other PL side fancy him, do they?
Absolutely right. These owners are proving to be a complete shower of shit.
Pointless loan. Decent player in my book. Manning isn’t fit to lace his boots and certainly won’t play as many premiership games as Perraud has managed. If Manning was that good why wasn’t he snapped up on a free this summer by a premiership team?
I agree Manning needs to improve defensively, but anyone who can pass the ball this well has something about them.
What was so great about the pass to Edozie? He scuffed it and the QPR player should have cut it out but went with his wrong foot. It was a decent pass nothing else.
Manning was out of position on numerous QPR chances and against a better team that woud have cost us
Perraud is a very traditional left back. I think RM will accept Manning's defensive slips for the other stuff he brings to the build up etc. I'm hoping he will improve over time as he settles in. It is probably the case as with many of the players that he doesn't fancy the championship. We bought him a s a fairly established PL side and he wants out. I can understand why he might prefer Nice to Southampton as a place to live to be fair.
Yep decent player who was voted best Young left back in France by French fans before he came to saints. . Oh well , another few million in the bank.
KWP next to go .
Che will probably go to someone like Bournemouth or Palace on the last day of window leaving us scrambling about for a striker probably this kid from Aberdeen. we’ll put in a deal sheet( whatever they call it ) and get it over the line… just.
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i agree with you on this look what happened in january what a joke
Perraud was always signed as a back up, he is a whole hearted player and that will endear him to the fans, but ultimately he is a traditional left back who can defend, but not get up and down the line for 90 minutes as a wing back.
What Russell martin has shown here is that he has a strategy and he is sticking to it, he is not pandering to anyone, players or fans, he is doing it his way, Manning might not be good enough for the Premier League, but he is the best left back in the Championship as shown by 5 goals and 10 assists last year, his 2 this year mean that since the start of last season his 12 assists is more than any other player in that time.
Saints fans at times seem to favour players that run around a lot above those that deliver, I'm not going to slag off Perraud, he did a job, but he isnt a Russell Martin style player so his time was always going to be up.
What is sad is that some people can't give Manning a chance, the first assist was a mis kick for instance, it doesn't matter its all about delivering, Manning has done that going forward, he now needs to do it defensively and he is not the only culprit at the back and certainly not the biggest
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Perraud was always signed as a back up, he is a whole hearted player and that will endear him to the fans, but ultimately he is a traditional left back who can defend, but not get up and down the line for 90 minutes as a wing back.
What Russell martin has shown here is that he has a strategy and he is sticking to it, he is not pandering to anyone, players or fans, he is doing it his way, Manning might not be good enough for the Premier League, but he is the best left back in the Championship as shown by 5 goals and 10 assists last year, his 2 this year mean that since the start of last season his 12 assists is more than any other player in that time.
Saints fans at times seem to favour players that run around a lot above those that deliver, I'm not going to slag off Perraud, he did a job, but he isnt a Russell Martin style player so his time was always going to be up.
What is sad is that some people can't give Manning a chance, the first assist was a mis kick for instance, it doesn't matter its all about delivering, Manning has done that going forward, he now needs to do it defensively and he is not the only culprit at the back and certainly not the biggest
I think the issue many have with Manning is that he should already be the finished article and slot straight in. If a player makes the team of the year, then he should be good, very good. What we have seen so far is a very mixed bag. Yes he has shown good attacking play and a couple of decent assists, but that 'assist' for the Norwich 4th was a joke and it was his slip that let Plymouth in for their equaliser.
People tend to remember mistakes and goals.
Perraud was an OK defender for us in the Prem, scored a few great goals and made a few assists. Hopefully Manning will manage to do the same.
Pat - sorry mate, but I think all your efforts to get your Perraud song going may now have been in vain.
Perraud was always signed as a back up, he is a whole hearted player and that will endear him to the fans, but ultimately he is a traditional left back who can defend, but not get up and down the line for 90 minutes as a wing back.
What Russell martin has shown here is that he has a strategy and he is sticking to it, he is not pandering to anyone, players or fans, he is doing it his way, Manning might not be good enough for the Premier League, but he is the best left back in the Championship as shown by 5 goals and 10 assists last year, his 2 this year mean that since the start of last season his 12 assists is more than any other player in that time.
Saints fans at times seem to favour players that run around a lot above those that deliver, I'm not going to slag off Perraud, he did a job, but he isnt a Russell Martin style player so his time was always going to be up.
What is sad is that some people can't give Manning a chance, the first assist was a mis kick for instance, it doesn't matter its all about delivering, Manning has done that going forward, he now needs to do it defensively and he is not the only culprit at the back and certainly not the biggest
Perraud is a player you never fancied. When I’ve watched him I’ve never thought he hasn’t got the engine to get up and down. He was bought as Bertrand’s replacement not backup.
I’m coming round to RM, however playing Perraud at centreback was ridiculous.
Perraud is a player you never fancied. When I’ve watched him I’ve never thought he hasn’t got the engine to get up and down. He was bought as Bertrand’s replacement not backup.
I’m coming round to RM, however playing Perraud at centreback was ridiculous.
He can get up and down, but he hasnt the engine as Livramento has for instance.
You are right Perraud was bought to replace Bertrand, but as it became clear that Livramento was top quality it soon became clear that Hasenhuttl preferred KWP at right back than Perraud.
Perraud started 18 games in the first season plus 2 off the bench and 15 where he was sub but not used.
Last season he benefitted from Livramento being injured and started 22 games.
I agree with you it was unfair to play him at centre half, he clearly wasn't suited to the position, but I think Martin felt that Meghoma was more suited to his style of play and wanted to give him a game there, so pushed Perraud to the centre of defence.
It is not about how good or bad Perraud is, he is just not suited to the style that Martin wants
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