| cummings 11:03 - May 26 with 12604 views | saint22 |
Unsurprisingly ripping Bojo and his ship of fools a new one!
Hancock should have been fired for lying about 15 odd things, no plan, lockdown should have been earlier
Telling us what we all knew
But hey lets keep voting the idiots in shall we
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv
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| cummings on 18:29 - May 26 with 1255 views | Saintsforeverj |
| cummings on 18:07 - May 26 by grumpy |
That's ridiculous to say we lost so many lives just because we are an obese nation, have a large population with high density, there are plenty of nations in the world who can claim that.
I suspect there are more deaths due to Covid than are recorded, not less.
To blame the nation when so many confusing messages are sent out is again ridiculous.
'And yes, the government made the difficult decision to offer some protection to the economy by not locking down all year'
Well tell that to the relations of loved ones they have lost due to not shutting down sooner. |
Read the article, it's not rediculous at all. Oh well, we all had the chance to give our verdict on how the pandemic was managed and vote on who we wanted to run the country 2 weeks ago.
Keep slating the governement and sticking the knife in, in hindsight, if it makes you happy. But it doesn't change the fact that Boris is more popular than any PM has been in a long time. [Post edited 26 May 2021 18:46]
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| cummings on 19:00 - May 26 with 1199 views | grumpy |
| cummings on 18:29 - May 26 by Saintsforeverj |
Read the article, it's not rediculous at all. Oh well, we all had the chance to give our verdict on how the pandemic was managed and vote on who we wanted to run the country 2 weeks ago.
Keep slating the governement and sticking the knife in, in hindsight, if it makes you happy. But it doesn't change the fact that Boris is more popular than any PM has been in a long time. [Post edited 26 May 2021 18:46]
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'Boris is more popular than any PM has been in a long time'
How do you make that out?
Is it because he beat Corbyn in an general election? |  | | |
| cummings on 19:13 - May 26 with 1179 views | Bazza |
| cummings on 19:00 - May 26 by grumpy |
'Boris is more popular than any PM has been in a long time'
How do you make that out?
Is it because he beat Corbyn in an general election? |
UK is about 15th in deaths/ million. By the way Cummings today said that both Boris and Corbin are useless leaders. Some of the worst people at work are the failed experts; people who profess to know all the answers but fail to convince anybody. Recognise anyone? | | | |
| cummings on 19:26 - May 26 with 1173 views | Saintsforeverj |
| cummings on 19:00 - May 26 by grumpy |
'Boris is more popular than any PM has been in a long time'
How do you make that out?
Is it because he beat Corbyn in an general election? |
That plus,
The Conservatives have the biggest majority since Thatcher.
May faced Corbyn and got far less votes than Boris.
Various Constituencies have returned a Conservative MP for the first time ever.since records began.
Only 2 weeks ago, Hartlepool elected a Conservative MP for the first time in 56 years.
Boris has high ratings in latest polls.
In the latest council elections, the Tories gained loads of councils, Labour lost loads and that's under Starmer.
So yeah Boris is quite popular. [Post edited 26 May 2021 19:31]
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| cummings on 19:32 - May 26 with 1162 views | DorsetIan |
| cummings on 17:53 - May 26 by Saintsforeverj |
Very obese nation. https://www.bmj.com/content/37
A large population, larger than lots of European countries.
Many deaths recorded as Covid, even when it wasn't the direct cause. People dieing with Covid not from Covid.
High population density.
A nation of many Covid rule breakers.
And yes, the government made the difficult decision to offer some protection to the economy by not locking down all year.
But you could ofcourse ignore all of that and just blame Boris. [Post edited 26 May 2021 17:59]
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I take it you didn't listen today?
All the things that people thought at the time about Johnson just being too slow to act and too complacent were all confirmed. And not just once but three times. First lockdown, second lockdown and closing borders. It wasn't a surprised and it isn't a surprise about him, given his personality.
Likewise, no 'ring of steel' around care homes, people sent into care homes with Covid with inadequate PPE. And Hancock lying about it.
It's all clearly true but you can chose to ignore it if you prefer.
Blame where blame is due. It's a simple idea. | |
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| cummings on 19:33 - May 26 with 1155 views | Saintsforeverj |
| cummings on 19:32 - May 26 by DorsetIan |
I take it you didn't listen today?
All the things that people thought at the time about Johnson just being too slow to act and too complacent were all confirmed. And not just once but three times. First lockdown, second lockdown and closing borders. It wasn't a surprised and it isn't a surprise about him, given his personality.
Likewise, no 'ring of steel' around care homes, people sent into care homes with Covid with inadequate PPE. And Hancock lying about it.
It's all clearly true but you can chose to ignore it if you prefer.
Blame where blame is due. It's a simple idea. |
Confirmed by Cummings? | |
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| cummings on 20:39 - May 26 with 1122 views | Sadoldgit |
Which means what? This bloke was at the heart of these meetings and at the heart of these decisions. If he doesn’t know what was going on who does? |  | | |
| cummings on 20:39 - May 26 with 1122 views | Bazza |
| cummings on 19:32 - May 26 by DorsetIan |
I take it you didn't listen today?
All the things that people thought at the time about Johnson just being too slow to act and too complacent were all confirmed. And not just once but three times. First lockdown, second lockdown and closing borders. It wasn't a surprised and it isn't a surprise about him, given his personality.
Likewise, no 'ring of steel' around care homes, people sent into care homes with Covid with inadequate PPE. And Hancock lying about it.
It's all clearly true but you can chose to ignore it if you prefer.
Blame where blame is due. It's a simple idea. |
Mm 84% of care homes are privately owned so blame where blame is due | | | |
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| cummings on 20:40 - May 26 with 1119 views | DorsetIan |
Yes, he came across as telling the truth. Obviously just his take on events but he's a far less shifty character than the politicians he was talking about.
And he took plenty of the blame on himself, so it wasn't an obviously biased testimony. | |
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| cummings on 20:42 - May 26 with 1117 views | SalisburySaint |
| cummings on 19:32 - May 26 by DorsetIan |
I take it you didn't listen today?
All the things that people thought at the time about Johnson just being too slow to act and too complacent were all confirmed. And not just once but three times. First lockdown, second lockdown and closing borders. It wasn't a surprised and it isn't a surprise about him, given his personality.
Likewise, no 'ring of steel' around care homes, people sent into care homes with Covid with inadequate PPE. And Hancock lying about it.
It's all clearly true but you can chose to ignore it if you prefer.
Blame where blame is due. It's a simple idea. |
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| cummings on 21:10 - May 26 with 1094 views | grumpy |
| cummings on 19:13 - May 26 by Bazza |
UK is about 15th in deaths/ million. By the way Cummings today said that both Boris and Corbin are useless leaders. Some of the worst people at work are the failed experts; people who profess to know all the answers but fail to convince anybody. Recognise anyone? |
UK is also the 5th largest economy in the world.
We should have dealt far better with this virus than we have done. | | | |
| cummings on 22:02 - May 26 with 1067 views | Sadoldgit |
| cummings on 17:53 - May 26 by Saintsforeverj |
Very obese nation. https://www.bmj.com/content/37
A large population, larger than lots of European countries.
Many deaths recorded as Covid, even when it wasn't the direct cause. People dieing with Covid not from Covid.
High population density.
A nation of many Covid rule breakers.
And yes, the government made the difficult decision to offer some protection to the economy by not locking down all year.
But you could ofcourse ignore all of that and just blame Boris. [Post edited 26 May 2021 17:59]
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The economy over people’s lives? Are you saying that lives have a price?
Why is Johnson blamed? Because it is his fault. | | | |
| cummings on 22:31 - May 26 with 1045 views | Bazza |
| cummings on 22:02 - May 26 by Sadoldgit |
The economy over people’s lives? Are you saying that lives have a price?
Why is Johnson blamed? Because it is his fault. |
All Boris on his own then, he should have been psychic. So nothing to do with other ministers, top civil servants, certain weak nhs leaders, care home owners, party goers, mass weddings, mask avoiders. So nothing to do with the government trying not to wreck the economy and save jobs whilst attempting to contain a powerful mystery virus. I remember plenty of complaints on each lockdown by business owners, union leaders and lots of coronavirus deniers. Blame where it’s due. | | | |
| cummings on 23:19 - May 26 with 1030 views | DorsetIan |
| cummings on 22:31 - May 26 by Bazza |
All Boris on his own then, he should have been psychic. So nothing to do with other ministers, top civil servants, certain weak nhs leaders, care home owners, party goers, mass weddings, mask avoiders. So nothing to do with the government trying not to wreck the economy and save jobs whilst attempting to contain a powerful mystery virus. I remember plenty of complaints on each lockdown by business owners, union leaders and lots of coronavirus deniers. Blame where it’s due. |
That's the claim, yes. Cummings said specifically that the delaying decisions made by Boris were one's that only 1% of any other sensible leaders would have made.
Lots of Boris apologists on this thread. Good luck to you all, you've got the PM you deserve. | |
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| cummings on 23:29 - May 26 with 1027 views | A1079 |
The whole Coronovirus pandemic and the manner in which various parts of the establishment and groups managed it was never going to be black and white and anyone who thinks it was or could have been are deluded. It is easy to be wise after the event, it is even easier to pour oil on the problem when you have fallen out with your masters and you feel free and unshackled to speak freely with the aim of causing retribution and damage. Hard to swallow when that said person were happy to take the money and reap the benefits of being part of an inner circle.
On the issue of the covid itself, which of course I am no authority to speak on other than a armchair critic and observer.
1. At the initial outbreak of Covid I do believe the Govt were slow to understand the extent of the problem and respond to the warning signs. But, to some extent I excuse them because I believe the impression was that it was a problem in another land that could never reach our shores in the manner in which it did. They were wrong of course and because they did not understand and appreciate the wave that was coming, by the time they realised it was a problem it was already endemic in the population. Also they were a relatively new government who had not had time to settle in to any rhythm or team;
2. China's role in this cannot be dismissed. They were slow to warn the world, they tried to suppress the risk of it and they potentially used the situation to their benefit knowing that they held key logistical supply lines. Do I believe it was a conspiracy to intentionally use Covid to dominate the world economically? No, but I do believe China realised that they could benefit from it;
3. Herd immunity - clear that initially that that was the strategy but once the Govt and Scientists and NHS started to see how quickly and damaging that could be they then changed the strategy but some extent the horse had bolted. In some respects herd immunity had some gravitas based historically. The quicker that the population has a disease the quicker you come out the other end. The trouble is, they did not realise that Covid would cause so many deaths and as soon as that became apparent they had to change direction rapidly;
4. Initially mistakes were made but I don't know anyone or any government that would have got everything right. It was a unique situation and a quick learning curve with conflicting views from the scientists, UN, WHO and others before they settled on a uniform approach;
5. Wholesale testing - I do believe they got this wrong and ridiculous claims and attempts to try and hit unrealistic targets means that the Govt put themselves in a corner. The fact that they hit the 100,000 mark on the last day of April 2020 and it was never achieved before or after that suggests some massaging of the method to get to that figure;
6. The good things I think the Govt, scientists and authorities got right were in my view, the setting up of the Nightingale Hospitals, the furlough scheme, support to avoid widespread unemployment and of course more recently the vaccination programme;
7. Procurement was poor but procurement has a history of being poor in the public sector. It is an example of Civil Servants with little private sector experience trying to organise a "p*ss up in a brewery". Some aspects of the Covid crisis should have been taken out of the hands of Govt and should have been lead by someone who has business and logistical experience. They could still have had the checks and balances;
8. The eat out to help out was a pointless exercise and exacerbated a situation at a time that numbers were starting to rise again. Ironically the very group that we were trying to protect were the very ones that used the scheme most - the elderly who saw it as a cheap meal. Suddenly swathes of them were not concerned about the risk or their own safety;
9. The Govt and authorities missed a valued window last summer before the return to school. They should have used that period to set up mass testing in schools and colleges and universities. They didn't, they became complacent and possibly covid weary, but logic should have told them that flu, influenza and other bugs increase when autumn approaches. The tier system did not work and was in many cases illogically used;
10 Our biggest error was the failure to lock down our borders. To not do it the first time I sort of understood. I suspect they were scared stiff of being labelled xenophobic and anti international especially coming on the back of Brexit. We did not want to be seen as the country that did not welcome foreigners. So, in that respect I sympathise with the conundrum they were in, but to repeat that mistake and even more recently with the Indian variant is bewildering. We placed at risk our own population and putting back the hard work we have all done to try and maintain a good positive impression abroad;
11. What cannot be ignored is the role of the public. I have been bewildered by the fact that the general population seem to constantly seek guidance from others rather than use their own commonsense or take responsibility for themselves. Many have used their own failures as an excuse to blame the government. Why would anyone with any sense book a holiday abroad last summer or this but then in the same breath blame the Govt for not locking down the borders. Hypocrisy does not end at the gates of the Downing Street.
One other thing. China have got away with this lightly. Whatever faults are found in our way of managing this crisis we do at least have opportunities like today and in forthcoming enquiries to microscopically look at every sinew of process throughout the pandemic. Whether there is alot of value to personalise it I am not convinced, what we should be making sure is that a plan is put together on how something like this is managed in the future whoever is leading the government. If we don't do that then that will be a huge failing as this situation will come again at some point in the future.
I don't subscribe to the view that the Government got it all wrong and neither do I think they got it all right. Opposition parties have added little to the crisis and have effectively been no more than I have just been here - a sideline observer and critic.
For those looking and hoping that Cummins announcements will collapse the Govt are probably going to be disappointed. Covid in itself will not bring this Govt down but when the time (as the time comes for all Govts) to lose the support of the public Covid may be a factor but it won't be the defining reason. Meanwhile, Cummins can make the headlines, stick the knife in and earn some bucks from newspaper weekend articles and the inevitable book. Do I believe that Ministers etc should not be held to account? No, they should and may be ultimately some heads should role. But, I suspect in reality, not everyone leading in the NHS will have been squeaky clean and neither are some of the private enterprises that run our care homes. Just like war, in a crisis you don't have to dig very deep to find something unpalatable. | | | |
| cummings on 23:46 - May 26 with 1024 views | Ron11 |
| cummings on 19:13 - May 26 by Bazza |
UK is about 15th in deaths/ million. By the way Cummings today said that both Boris and Corbin are useless leaders. Some of the worst people at work are the failed experts; people who profess to know all the answers but fail to convince anybody. Recognise anyone? |
I would have thought that the top advisor to the Prime minister would look like one, not slouching around in sloppy hoodies and baseball caps.Never saw the c*nt wearing a tie...
Schoolyard sneak who grew up into a drug dealer lookalike come to mind.
What he wants is control, not an advisory role...he'll never get it now. | | | |
| cummings on 06:57 - May 27 with 970 views | kentsouthampton |
| cummings on 23:29 - May 26 by A1079 |
The whole Coronovirus pandemic and the manner in which various parts of the establishment and groups managed it was never going to be black and white and anyone who thinks it was or could have been are deluded. It is easy to be wise after the event, it is even easier to pour oil on the problem when you have fallen out with your masters and you feel free and unshackled to speak freely with the aim of causing retribution and damage. Hard to swallow when that said person were happy to take the money and reap the benefits of being part of an inner circle.
On the issue of the covid itself, which of course I am no authority to speak on other than a armchair critic and observer.
1. At the initial outbreak of Covid I do believe the Govt were slow to understand the extent of the problem and respond to the warning signs. But, to some extent I excuse them because I believe the impression was that it was a problem in another land that could never reach our shores in the manner in which it did. They were wrong of course and because they did not understand and appreciate the wave that was coming, by the time they realised it was a problem it was already endemic in the population. Also they were a relatively new government who had not had time to settle in to any rhythm or team;
2. China's role in this cannot be dismissed. They were slow to warn the world, they tried to suppress the risk of it and they potentially used the situation to their benefit knowing that they held key logistical supply lines. Do I believe it was a conspiracy to intentionally use Covid to dominate the world economically? No, but I do believe China realised that they could benefit from it;
3. Herd immunity - clear that initially that that was the strategy but once the Govt and Scientists and NHS started to see how quickly and damaging that could be they then changed the strategy but some extent the horse had bolted. In some respects herd immunity had some gravitas based historically. The quicker that the population has a disease the quicker you come out the other end. The trouble is, they did not realise that Covid would cause so many deaths and as soon as that became apparent they had to change direction rapidly;
4. Initially mistakes were made but I don't know anyone or any government that would have got everything right. It was a unique situation and a quick learning curve with conflicting views from the scientists, UN, WHO and others before they settled on a uniform approach;
5. Wholesale testing - I do believe they got this wrong and ridiculous claims and attempts to try and hit unrealistic targets means that the Govt put themselves in a corner. The fact that they hit the 100,000 mark on the last day of April 2020 and it was never achieved before or after that suggests some massaging of the method to get to that figure;
6. The good things I think the Govt, scientists and authorities got right were in my view, the setting up of the Nightingale Hospitals, the furlough scheme, support to avoid widespread unemployment and of course more recently the vaccination programme;
7. Procurement was poor but procurement has a history of being poor in the public sector. It is an example of Civil Servants with little private sector experience trying to organise a "p*ss up in a brewery". Some aspects of the Covid crisis should have been taken out of the hands of Govt and should have been lead by someone who has business and logistical experience. They could still have had the checks and balances;
8. The eat out to help out was a pointless exercise and exacerbated a situation at a time that numbers were starting to rise again. Ironically the very group that we were trying to protect were the very ones that used the scheme most - the elderly who saw it as a cheap meal. Suddenly swathes of them were not concerned about the risk or their own safety;
9. The Govt and authorities missed a valued window last summer before the return to school. They should have used that period to set up mass testing in schools and colleges and universities. They didn't, they became complacent and possibly covid weary, but logic should have told them that flu, influenza and other bugs increase when autumn approaches. The tier system did not work and was in many cases illogically used;
10 Our biggest error was the failure to lock down our borders. To not do it the first time I sort of understood. I suspect they were scared stiff of being labelled xenophobic and anti international especially coming on the back of Brexit. We did not want to be seen as the country that did not welcome foreigners. So, in that respect I sympathise with the conundrum they were in, but to repeat that mistake and even more recently with the Indian variant is bewildering. We placed at risk our own population and putting back the hard work we have all done to try and maintain a good positive impression abroad;
11. What cannot be ignored is the role of the public. I have been bewildered by the fact that the general population seem to constantly seek guidance from others rather than use their own commonsense or take responsibility for themselves. Many have used their own failures as an excuse to blame the government. Why would anyone with any sense book a holiday abroad last summer or this but then in the same breath blame the Govt for not locking down the borders. Hypocrisy does not end at the gates of the Downing Street.
One other thing. China have got away with this lightly. Whatever faults are found in our way of managing this crisis we do at least have opportunities like today and in forthcoming enquiries to microscopically look at every sinew of process throughout the pandemic. Whether there is alot of value to personalise it I am not convinced, what we should be making sure is that a plan is put together on how something like this is managed in the future whoever is leading the government. If we don't do that then that will be a huge failing as this situation will come again at some point in the future.
I don't subscribe to the view that the Government got it all wrong and neither do I think they got it all right. Opposition parties have added little to the crisis and have effectively been no more than I have just been here - a sideline observer and critic.
For those looking and hoping that Cummins announcements will collapse the Govt are probably going to be disappointed. Covid in itself will not bring this Govt down but when the time (as the time comes for all Govts) to lose the support of the public Covid may be a factor but it won't be the defining reason. Meanwhile, Cummins can make the headlines, stick the knife in and earn some bucks from newspaper weekend articles and the inevitable book. Do I believe that Ministers etc should not be held to account? No, they should and may be ultimately some heads should role. But, I suspect in reality, not everyone leading in the NHS will have been squeaky clean and neither are some of the private enterprises that run our care homes. Just like war, in a crisis you don't have to dig very deep to find something unpalatable. |
Setting up the Nightingale hospitals was pure gaslighting of the public, they couldn't put so much a single doctor in one because of acute staff shortages.
Same goes for nurses.
Half the things the government have come out with have been gaslighting on an industrial scale, still they seemed to have roped you in easily enough. |  | | |
| cummings on 07:17 - May 27 with 957 views | kentsouthampton |
| cummings on 17:14 - May 26 by Saintsforeverj |
And we would have all been much thinner under a different PM.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/n
The man who blatantly disobeyed Covid rules by travelling the country, putting lives at risk, for which many on here slated the man for (rightly so) states that the government could have done more 🙄
Now the same Labour Party is now believing everything he says and slating the government for not listening to the man they slated as a lyer and a disgrace🤔. It's a good try from a bitter ex member of staff who was sacked, but again just like before the recent council elections, the majority of people know what is going on here. Majority, being the key word. [Post edited 26 May 2021 17:26]
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Downing Street have not denied any of it, in fact the official line trotted out by Jenrick last night was 'this will all be examined in the upcoming public enquiry'.
Usually they deny everything, not this time because there will be other witnesses. | | | |
| cummings on 08:11 - May 27 with 930 views | Sadoldgit |
| cummings on 22:31 - May 26 by Bazza |
All Boris on his own then, he should have been psychic. So nothing to do with other ministers, top civil servants, certain weak nhs leaders, care home owners, party goers, mass weddings, mask avoiders. So nothing to do with the government trying not to wreck the economy and save jobs whilst attempting to contain a powerful mystery virus. I remember plenty of complaints on each lockdown by business owners, union leaders and lots of coronavirus deniers. Blame where it’s due. |
Johnson is the PM. The man at which the buck stops. The man who makes the decisions. Yes, the fault lies ( pun intended) with him. He is the reason Matt Hancock is Health Secretary. He made several crucial bad decisions himself. He employed Dominic Cummings himself. Don’t you find it strange that the (very long) list of people who condemn Johnson are the people closest to him and know him best? He gets plenty of support from people who don’t know him at all. I guess those are the ones prepared to turn a blind eye to his many shortcomings. “Let the bodies pile high” will be his epitaph and when we (finally) get the independent long overdue public enquiry next year the bloke is toast. | | | |
| cummings on 08:19 - May 27 with 928 views | Berber |
The back story here, is that when the scientific advisors were delaying advice, then changing it, I don't think any government could have acted quickly and decisively, without taking huge, unjustified risks.
One of the saddest things is the Labour party's completely inept attempts to hold the government to account. A weak opposition allows incompetence and self interest to continue unabated. Today, one of the ineffectual shadow minister buffoons was on the radio calling for an immediate inquiry, not realising she was condemning herself for their ineptness, uselessness and powerlessness at the same time. When asked why she called Dominic Cummings a liar at the time of his Barnard Castle trip, she now puts complete faith in his testimony, during which he admitted that he had not been fully truthful, she had no answer.
Cummings himself has a poor grasp of facts and reality, not being able to give a date or a month for an incident that he claims was appallingly serious to him. We all understand his explanation for the trip North was tenuous at best. How come, when he says he always felt that BJ was flawed and not up to the job, he worked his socks off to get him elected as PM? Frankly, all we are seeing is opinions dressed up as history.
What we are seeing is that all politicians are vipers, and mostly useless. |  |
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| cummings on 09:41 - May 27 with 913 views | stmichael |
Wasn't he the first president in decades NOT to go to war in his first term?
Didn't he bring Arab countries together to sign a peace agreement in his final year?
No profit in peace though boys and the war mongering democrats will undo all of that that's for sure.. | |
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| cummings on 10:08 - May 27 with 895 views | DorsetIan |
| cummings on 20:39 - May 26 by Bazza |
Mm 84% of care homes are privately owned so blame where blame is due |
Idiotic comment. There was no PPE available and patients with COVID were being sent from the (publicly owned) NHS to the care homes to free up beds. This was clear at the time but denied by the govt and is even clearer now.
Blaming the care homes is not how it works. When someone recklessly or negligently infects someone else we blame the person doing the infecting, not the one being infected. | |
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| cummings on 10:21 - May 27 with 890 views | DorsetIan |
The issue about Johnson is not that he's a clown. Sometimes it's good to have a clown in charge. It gives the public a laugh and a bit of a break from your usual stuffy politician. Some people do seem to like the fact that he come across as a bumbling fool.
That would be fine if he'd surrounded himself with the most competent people. He hasn't. Hi ministers have been appointed on the basis of loyalty not competence.
That's why Hancock wasn't sacked after clearly balls-ing up a whole load of important decisions and that's why the dimwit Patel is still Home Secretary.
The thing that has gone right - the vaccinations - has gone right because it was taken away from Hancock and given to people who knew what they were doing.
We need more of this, but as Cummings explained, Johnson admitted that he preferred the chaos to getting things working properly, because while there's chaos then his position of power is stronger.
So many tinpot leaders go this way. They just want loyalty and power, so they surround themselves with sycophantic idiots. | |
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| cummings on 10:25 - May 27 with 887 views | saint22 |
| cummings on 08:11 - May 27 by Sadoldgit |
Johnson is the PM. The man at which the buck stops. The man who makes the decisions. Yes, the fault lies ( pun intended) with him. He is the reason Matt Hancock is Health Secretary. He made several crucial bad decisions himself. He employed Dominic Cummings himself. Don’t you find it strange that the (very long) list of people who condemn Johnson are the people closest to him and know him best? He gets plenty of support from people who don’t know him at all. I guess those are the ones prepared to turn a blind eye to his many shortcomings. “Let the bodies pile high” will be his epitaph and when we (finally) get the independent long overdue public enquiry next year the bloke is toast. |
He has never accepted responsibility for anything in his life
Buck passing silver spoon coward | | | |
| cummings on 10:31 - May 27 with 887 views | DorsetIan |
| cummings on 08:19 - May 27 by Berber |
The back story here, is that when the scientific advisors were delaying advice, then changing it, I don't think any government could have acted quickly and decisively, without taking huge, unjustified risks.
One of the saddest things is the Labour party's completely inept attempts to hold the government to account. A weak opposition allows incompetence and self interest to continue unabated. Today, one of the ineffectual shadow minister buffoons was on the radio calling for an immediate inquiry, not realising she was condemning herself for their ineptness, uselessness and powerlessness at the same time. When asked why she called Dominic Cummings a liar at the time of his Barnard Castle trip, she now puts complete faith in his testimony, during which he admitted that he had not been fully truthful, she had no answer.
Cummings himself has a poor grasp of facts and reality, not being able to give a date or a month for an incident that he claims was appallingly serious to him. We all understand his explanation for the trip North was tenuous at best. How come, when he says he always felt that BJ was flawed and not up to the job, he worked his socks off to get him elected as PM? Frankly, all we are seeing is opinions dressed up as history.
What we are seeing is that all politicians are vipers, and mostly useless. |
The first and second lockdowns are very different.
With the first, yes, there was a lot of confusion and Cummings admitted that it took him a while to realise the seriousness and that the govt approach was heading in the wrong direction.
The second is much clearer. Johnson was advised in September that we needed a second lockdown and HE decided not to do it. That can only be on him.
It was a typical Johnson gamble on the hope that everything would turn out OK (this is what chancers do) and it was disastrous. It meant that we again slow to tackle the rising number such that when the Kent variation arose, the numbers were too high to do anything about it.
It seems like he did the same thing again in terms of adding India to the red list.
We really didn't need someone so reckless as our Prime Minister in charge of these decisions.
And it's all very well that he made the decisions in good faith in difficult circumstances. When you've got a well meaning person in a difficult job who keeps screwing things up, they still need sacking. | |
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